XXTickerXX Â Â 10 #13 Posted November 3, 2012 What Madusa is implying is, if you removed the religious aspect the mother would still have beaten the child regardless. Â But its taking away that the mother will have been brainwashed from birth as most of the weak minded who follow Islam.She was just trying to do the same to her son. You can`t remove the religious aspect when it is about religion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ricgem2002 Â Â 11 #14 Posted November 3, 2012 What Madusa is implying is, if you removed the religious aspect the mother would still have beaten the child regardless. i thought he was beaten because he didnt learn the koran (religion) quick enough?. if you took that away why would he have been beaten ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
cgksheff   44 #15 Posted November 3, 2012 What Madusa is implying is, if you removed the religious aspect the mother would still have beaten the child regardless.   It is possible, but the false expectations were the direct result of their religion and its followers.  Beating is still an accepted part of children learning the Koran by rote.  Take the family away from that social/religious group and they may have led happy lives. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Halibut   12 #16 Posted November 3, 2012 i thought he was beaten because he didnt learn the koran (religion) quick enough?. if you took that away why would he have been beaten ?  Because his mother was clearly a child abusing control with with serious problems. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ricgem2002 Â Â 11 #17 Posted November 3, 2012 Because his mother was clearly a child abusing control with with serious problems. eh eh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
discodown   11 #18 Posted November 3, 2012 It is possible, but the false expectations were the direct result of their religion and its followers. Beating is still an accepted part of children learning the Koran by rote.  Take the family away from that social/religious group and they may have led happy lives. Then again they may not. We'll never know. The chances are someone like that would have found another reason to beat the child to death. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ronthenekred   10 #19 Posted November 3, 2012 (edited) i thought he was beaten because he didnt learn the koran (religion) quick enough?. if you took that away why would he have been beaten ?  Because she likes it? If the book is responsible for the child's death then maybe she should walk free....   edit: ....and the book put on trial. Edited November 3, 2012 by ronthenekred Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
MrMoran   10 #20 Posted November 3, 2012 I don't think that the demise of this poor boy had a thing to do with religion of any sort. I think it had to do with a woman who was using that as a reason to do unspeakably horrible things to a child she should have been loving. This is no more connected to religion than the abhorrent case of Stephen Farrow, who killed because he had a deep seated hatred of the church. The religions are just an outlet for a monster to do monstrous things.  This post = Head in the sand Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
MrMoran   10 #21 Posted November 3, 2012 Because his mother was clearly a child abusing control with with serious problems.  One of which being her religion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
mafya   246 #22 Posted November 3, 2012 But its taking away that the mother will have been brainwashed from birth as most of the weak minded who follow Islam.She was just trying to do the same to her son. You can`t remove the religious aspect when it is about religion.  How many other muslims have killed their kids for not learning the Quraan fast enough? Stop trying to make out it is the fault of Islam,your opinion of people who follow Islam says alot about you, I'm assuming your an atheist? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ronthenekred   10 #23 Posted November 3, 2012 One of which being her religion.  Then I guess prostitutes are to blame for the actions of Sutcliffe? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ronthenekred   10 #24 Posted November 3, 2012 But its taking away that the mother will have been brainwashed from birth as most of the weak minded who follow Islam.She was just trying to do the same to her son. You can`t remove the religious aspect when it is about religion.   I haven't removed the religious aspect, I only indicated that you can't claim any aspect including religion as an excuse. Some murderers are told by God..or Satan to kill their victims, would you suggest putting God or Satan on trial? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...