"You don't like our way of life so you should leave"

[ANGELFIRE1 10]

Yorkshire first, European 2nd. English more so than British.

 

 

Almost right -

 

Yorkshire first.

 

English second.

 

British third.

 

European - NEVER NEVER NEVER.

 

Angel.

[ANGELFIRE1 10]

....an oft said mantra from Daily Mail readers generally aimed at immigrants and/or Muslims. And generally wrong.

 

However, should we ask other groups to leave ? Do we need über right wing free marketeers ? No, go to America. Do we want tax-the-rich-till-they-bleed, nationalise everything lefties either ? No, go to france, better still, north Korea.

 

We don't do extreme in this country. We like just right of centre, sometimes just left of centre. We don't mind multiculturism, yet most are proud to be British. We like fairness and everyone doing their bit which means working if they can and paying their taxes when they make it big.

 

Are the rest just gumming up the works ?

 

 

If you were to live in a Muslim Country - would you be able to live your life as you do now, or would you HAVE to follow their lifestyle.

 

Angel.

[anywebsite 10]

It sounds like you need to get your own personal island somewhere else.

[ANGELFIRE1 10]

It sounds like you need to get your own personal island somewhere else.

 

 

 

Answer the question.

 

Angel.

[tinfoilhat 11]

You ignore the fact that "our way of life" changes over time. Up till 30 years ago successive Labour and Tory governments did have high taxes and nationalised industries as part of the post-war consensus. Then came Thatcher and free-market American politics, carried on by Major, Blair, Brown and now Cameron. So of the two things you've said we don't want we've had both at different times since 1945 and still have one.

 

Some good points in there. Yes there was polarisation of politics through the 70s and early 80s - I'd guess the parties just reflected the needs of the people. But we were/are nowhere near the free market/small government of America - just look at their views on the Nhs !! Our benefit system dwarfs there one (do they even have one ??).

 

But we've moved on though havent we ? We didn't want far left, socialist policies since the 70s, but we still, on the whole, want and value you the welfare state.

 

That of course, is going along the assumption that we are voting for parties who represent us(ish) and generally reflect the populations wishes. Is that still the case ? Was that ever the case ?

[mafya 248]

If you were to live in a Muslim Country - would you be able to live your life as you do now, or would you HAVE to follow their lifestyle.

 

Angel.

 

Define your lifestyle and I will tell you if I have been living it.

[Vague_Boy 10]

Then came Thatcher and free-market American politics, carried on by Major, Blair, Brown and now Cameron.

 

By "free market politics" do you mean politicians serving the whim of those with the biggest wallets (as Gerald Celente says, "forget 'campaign contributions', call them by their proper names, bribes and payoffs").

 

Or do you mean free market economics. Cos we kind of had that for a long, long time prior to when the government started trying to run the economy (badly).

 

That seemed to start in earnest around the 1930s.

 

We had the free market during the Industrial Revolution for example.

 

Because a rise in real income was precisely what made England's transformation "revolutionary," it would seem that, by definition, the industrial revolution led to a rise in the standard of living. According to the estimates of economist N. F. R. Crafts, British income per person (in 1970 U.S. dollars) rose from $333 in 1700 to $399 in 1760, to $427 in 1800, to $498 in 1830, and then jumped to $804 in 1860. (For many centuries before the industrial revolution, in contrast, periods of falling income offset periods of rising income.)

LINK

 

Under free market economics, Britain became a world industrial power.

 

Under our state interventionist system (nationalization etc.) Britain became the sick man of Europe in the 1970s.

 

It would be interesting to try free market capitalism again cos we sure as hell don't have it at the moment.

 

(Oligarchs going shopping for politicians is not free market capitalism by the way. And bailouts are inimical to the whole concept.)

[Lucifer 10]

....an oft said mantra from Daily Mail readers generally aimed at immigrants and/or Muslims. And generally wrong.

 

However, should we ask other groups to leave ? Do we need über right wing free marketeers ? No, go to America. Do we want tax-the-rich-till-they-bleed, nationalise everything lefties either ? No, go to france, better still, north Korea.

 

We don't do extreme in this country. We like just right of centre, sometimes just left of centre. We don't mind multiculturism, yet most are proud to be British. We like fairness and everyone doing their bit which means working if they can and paying their taxes when they make it big.

 

Are the rest just gumming up the works ?

 

I am English, unfortunately British means encompassing lots of countries that were invaded and given status to them by the English.

Scotland is a country that even the Romans didn't want to conquer and we know why. Fairy is a good cleansing fluid.

[gnvqsos 10]

We are way to soft and bend to the whim of anyone with a sob story .Time to get tough

and boot out the wasters.

 

And people who cannot use the English language accurately!

[mossdog 10]

And people who cannot use the English language accurately!

Then the UK would be half empty!.................so yes,good suggestion!

[Lucifer 10]

According to the problems with out teachers and their apparent inability to speak and spell english then half the people leaving would be english. It seems quite stange that people interview people in remote places who speak excellent english whilst here people spell aitch as haitch.

[Lockjaw 11]

According to the problems with out teachers and their apparent inability to speak and spell english then half the people leaving would be english. It seems quite stange that people interview people in remote places who speak excellent english whilst here people spell aitch as haitch.

 

....and "our" as "out".