larde   10 #217 Posted September 7, 2012 (edited)  Government income had been 10 billion Reichsmarks in 1928. In 1939, it stood at 15 billion. However, government spending had increased from 12 billion Reichsmarks in 1928 to over 30 billion in 1939 - a difference of 15 billion Reichsmarks. From 1933 to 1939, the Nazi government always spent more than it earned so that by 1939, government debt stood at over 40 billion Resichsmarks. Balance of trade figures had gone into the red by 1939 by 0.1 billion Reichsmarks  and that had nothing to do with the unfair reparations, the debt was due to hitler deciding he was no longer going to pay reparations but we kept adding the debt with interest .also didnt hitler leave the international monotary system? us we as the allies caused ww2 by the strict reparations we imposed on the german ppl after ww1 (a bit like what is happening now in britain ) every last penny was squeezed from the german ppl leaving them starving and living in unsanitary conditions with murder rape and robberys and not to forget the socialist hit squads that were roming germany killing anyone that didnt agree with there socialist views (funded by stalin to undermine germany to make it soft for invasion) and then you wonder why hitler came to power my origanal post was about atrocity's committed on both side but you chose to ignore the fact that churchill ordered the bombing of civilians so that hitler would switch to bombing citys not the airfields so that the airforce could rebuild and train new pilots. you also keep refering to the jews that hitler killed stalin killed more jews and more of his own ppl than hitler ever could and proberbly in a more brutal way but yet there was never an international call for him to be tried at the hague Edited September 7, 2012 by larde Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
larde   10 #218 Posted September 7, 2012  I tried, but... I swore to myself I'd ignore this thread after I put Scare on my ignore list...but I just couldn't resist coming back to it, after reading the above post: it just reminds so much of this :hihi:  (with apologies to sensible types for the humour in bad taste)  pmsl Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ronthenekred   10 #219 Posted September 7, 2012 , as he seems to think only germany ever did propaganda,.....  You won't get far on here or taken seriously if you ascribe something to someone that isn't true.  This is a serious question though ron, i might be off topic but don't fancy starting a thread on this one... When I was a kid I realised I was propagandised by American films, me and my mates loved playing cowboy and Indians as a kid, the only downside to the game was that we could never convince enough to be indians.. My mates would say they would rather be the good guys...  Yes, you're off topic and furthering a discussion in a schoolboy fashion by going off on silly tangents. Also "influenced" is the word you're looking for.  and that had nothing to do with the unfair reparations, the debt was due to hitler deciding he was no longer going to pay reparations but we kept adding the debt with interest .also didnt hitler leave the international monotary system? us we as the allies caused ww2 by the strict reparations we imposed on the german ppl after ww1 (a bit like what is happening now in britain ) every last penny was squeezed from the german ppl leaving them starving and living in unsanitary conditions with murder rape and robberys and not to forget the socialist hit squads that were roming germany killing anyone that didnt agree with there socialist views (funded by stalin to undermine germany to make it soft for invasion) and then you wonder why hitler came to power my origanal post was about atrocity's committed on both side but you chose to ignore the fact that churchill ordered the bombing of civilians so that hitler would switch to bombing citys not the airfields so that the airforce could rebuild and train new pilots. you also keep refering to the jews that hitler killed stalin killed more jews and more of his own ppl than hitler ever could and proberbly in a more brutal way but yet there was never an international call for him to be tried at the hague  You're drunk, still. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Scare   10 #220 Posted September 7, 2012 No ron, propaganda and influence could be used as the same word to describe western films, but obviously your not gonna answer that one then...you say it's schoolboy fashion but I did say when I was a kid Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ronthenekred   10 #221 Posted September 7, 2012 No ron, propaganda and influence could be used as the same word to describe western films, but obviously your not gonna answer that one then...you say it's schoolboy fashion but I did say when I was a kid  Next..     ............................. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Scare   10 #222 Posted September 7, 2012 Next..    ............................. No your alright ron, i think I'm just about finished now, I think we should just give the thread back to the OP..he did post again last night saying he wanted it back on topic, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Scare   10 #223 Posted September 7, 2012 I'm gonna do a thread on drones, been saying I'm gonna do one and I haven't yet so we might have some disagreements on that, depends what your views are on that though if you decide to take part Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Scare   10 #224 Posted September 7, 2012 (edited) Don't know how many times this has to be explained but I'll try again and simplify it as an analogy: Your daughter is unhappy, she finds comfort in the arms of a man who shows her love care and affection. He showers her with gifts, he promises her a future she's only dreamed of. Not only is she happy but as a father you are too. But... All this jolly happiness is based on a lie because the man your daughter is involved with is a murderer of people. A murderer who plunders the bank accounts of wealthy citizens. His hands are dripping in blood, his love for your daughter is dwarfed for his love of power, revenge and hate. Again another "but". Because your daughter has no knowledge of this and she's all warm and fluffy and in lovey dovey, this somehow justifies who he is even though she has no real understanding of who he is, of course until it's all to late that is....posted by ronthenekred    Sorry ron, just seen this post you did this morning..... Yes you keep explaining because your not seeing the other side.....the people of Germany knew what policy's hitler promoted and they knew he was against the treaty of versailles, him using propaganda to twist these alittle is not what I'm on about, what I'm saying is he felt harsh done by so I'm going on hitlers perspective here, also the people of Germany were against the treaty too as it left them poor and living in filth, so he didn't hoodwink the germans as you are making out because hitler believed in the same thing, and so he wanted to get germany out of this mess and get back what he claimed were germany,  the plundering of wealthy citizens banks, well that was the jews banks, he didn't agree with jews so that why he did it, the normal german people were his only concern Edited September 7, 2012 by Scare Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
larde   10 #225 Posted September 7, 2012 You won't get far on here or taken seriously if you ascribe something to someone that isn't true.   Yes, you're off topic and furthering a discussion in a schoolboy fashion by going off on silly tangents. Also "influenced" is the word you're looking for.    You're drunk, still.  wow realy good come back ron you sure put me in my place with the facts you just laid out there why havnt you answered any of the questions put forward to you me and scare have both put forward another side that never gets told and all you come back with is insults and googled facts (not saying me and scare agree on everything) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ronthenekred   10 #226 Posted September 7, 2012 Don't know how many times this has to be explained but I'll try again and simplify it as an analogy: Your daughter is unhappy, she finds comfort in the arms of a man who shows her love care and affection. He showers her with gifts, he promises her a future she's only dreamed of. Not only is she happy but as a father you are too. But... All this jolly happiness is based on a lie because the man your daughter is involved with is a murderer of people. A murderer who plunders the bank accounts of wealthy citizens. His hands are dripping in blood, his love for your daughter is dwarfed for his love of power, revenge and hate. Again another "but". Because your daughter has no knowledge of this and she's all warm and fluffy and in lovey dovey, this somehow justifies who he is even though she has no real understanding of who he is, of course until it's all to late that is....posted by ronthenekred    Sorry ron, just seen this post you did this morning..... Yes you keep explaining because your not seeing the other side.....the people of Germany knew what policy's hitler promoted and they knew he was against the treaty of versailles, him using propaganda to twist these alittle is not what I'm on about, what I'm saying is he felt harsh done by so I'm going on hitlers perspective here, also the people of Germany were against the treaty too as it left them poor and living in filth, so he didn't hoodwink the germans as you are making out because hitler believed in the same thing, and so he wanted to get germany out of this mess and get back what he claimed were germany,  the plundering of wealthy citizens banks, well that was the jews banks, he didn't agree with jews so that why he did it, the normal german people were his only concern  Non of that makes sense. Stop droning on and start your droning thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ronthenekred   10 #227 Posted September 7, 2012 wow realy good come back ron you sure put me in my place with the facts you just laid out there why havnt you answered any of the questions put forward to you me and scare have both put forward another side that never gets told and all you come back with is insults and googled facts (not saying me and scare agree on everything)  Thank you. I thought so too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Scare   10 #228 Posted September 7, 2012 Non of that makes sense. Stop droning on and start your droning thread. Ok go back to the boer war and learn ya stuff then come back when you understand... I'm gonna start on the drone thread in abit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
