2 kids max, £8k benefit cap - would you vote this? (other ideas too)

[Mister M 1,609]

Here's some if your struggling:...

 

Return of the death penalty

 

Remove all foreigners

 

Women should stay at home freeing up jobs

 

The promotion of Christian values.

 

Can't say I agree with policies 1, 2, and 3 (though no doubt you'd have Sun readers orgasming at the thought of the gallows, and forced repatriation of the non British). Depends on which Christian values you want to promote: If it's treat others as you'd like to be treated yourself, then I'm all for it, but if it's renunciation of wordly goods forget it.

[Mister M 1,609]

Overweight people being forced to some exercises before being allowed to purchase fatty foods at the supermarket. One of the isles to be set aside so all overweight people have to do 30 situps before being allowed to go to the counter to buy junk food

 

But lots of slim people have high cholestrol levels too....Not to mention rotten teeth. Perhaps people should have an oral check up before they get to the pick n mix counter.

[ronthenekred 10]

Can't say I agree with policies 1, 2, and 3 (though no doubt you'd have Sun readers orgasming at the thought of the gallows, and forced repatriation of the non British). Depends on which Christian values you want to promote: If it's treat others as you'd like to be treated yourself, then I'm all for it, but if it's renunciation of wordly goods forget it.

 

I disagree with all. The problem with the right and "Christian values" is that some other faith and its values are usually targeted.

 

I thought Christian values were a renunciation of worldly goods, or do we chose which bit suits us like radical Islamist's do?

[andy_parkin 10]

But lots of slim people have high cholestrol levels too....Not to mention rotten teeth. Perhaps people should have an oral check up before they get to the pick n mix counter.

 

 

That post by me was a silly comment, I retracted it as I don't mean it

[Mummytwo 10]

£8000 for two kids? You do realise you're taking away almost £4000. I'm guessing you have the younger chavvy generation in mind when you propose this? And not the people who are actually unable to work?

[andy_parkin 10]

OK, the cap at 2 children maximum, people have asked "what about people who have worked and suddenly found themselves out of work?"

 

The answer is this.

 

The benefit system would be flexible and look into each case in turn, we would need people employed in the benefit system who would judge each case on merits and decide accordingly, so for example

 

case 1

Overseas migrant into the country, never contributed has 5 kids and needs accomodation as well as money to maintain a lifestyle

 

case 2

male or female aged 25 (regardless of race) worked for 7 years, paid tax and national insurance into the system.. Recently been made redundant, fully intends to return to work but is struggling finacially at present

 

case 3

layabout, refuses work, antisocial behavior, breeds kids like a rabbit on viagra, in the pub or on the x-box

 

Now, you have to look at each case in turn and decide where best the money would be spent. If you have 3 cases like these people, I would allocate money (8k) and perhaps a little extra. Case 2, society would have to decide if allowing them to lose everything benefits the country in the long run, perhaps a defered loan until they get back on their feet to be repaid at a very low rate of interest

[Ms Macbeth 73]

Can't say I agree with policies 1, 2, and 3 (though no doubt you'd have Sun readers orgasming at the thought of the gallows, and forced repatriation of the non British). Depends on which Christian values you want to promote: If it's treat others as you'd like to be treated yourself, then I'm all for it, but if it's renunciation of wordly goods forget it.

 

I agree with your comments, but I did laugh at number 3! 'Women should stay at home freeing up jobs'! Jobs for whom?

[andy_parkin 10]

£8000 for two kids? You do realise you're taking away almost £4000. I'm guessing you have the younger chavvy generation in mind when you propose this? And not the people who are actually unable to work?

 

 

 

Why have children if you can't afford to pay for them?

 

The taxpayer can't be relied to bail out the feckless, we are out of money

[Mister M 1,609]

That post by me was a silly comment, I retracted it as I don't mean it

 

I dunno....I thought it made more sense thatn your policies on Benefits and Foreign Aid. Still, I think you're onto something with your idea on anti social behaviour.

[andy_parkin 10]

I dunno....I thought it made more sense thatn your policies on Benefits and Foreign Aid. Still, I think you're onto something with your idea on anti social behaviour.

 

 

 

The anti-social behavior, its an easy one to implement.

 

If you want free housing/money then you have to agree to a code of behavior. If you disagree, then get a job and pay for you own home

[Mummytwo 10]

Why have children if you can't afford to pay for them?

 

The taxpayer can't be relied to bail out the feckless, we are out of money

 

I find your 'feckless' comment highly offensive. I didn't say couldn't be bothered I said couldn't. It's hardly fair to expect people to be childless due to either disability or health issues preventing them from working. The inability to provide for themselves is torture enough for some. Also what if a person has children and then becomes incapable of work? There are many reasons for this. Don't assume the worst of every person.

 

{EDIT} Ill also add, that not everybody is happy having to survive off of benefits and would much rather be able to earn their own money, and earn more.

[Mister M 1,609]

The anti-social behavior, its an easy one to implement.

 

If you want free housing/money then you have to agree to a code of behavior. If you disagree, then get a job and pay for you own home

 

What about owner occupiers who are anti social? It's worth bearing in mind that some social housing there is a charge attatched, even if you're on the rock n roll