2 kids max, £8k benefit cap - would you vote this? (other ideas too)

[boyfriday 21]

Yes this manifesto would get my vote,shame there isnt a party that will do it.

 

I think there is, it sounds reminiscent of some of Nick Griffin's ill thought out tub thumping..but little does he realise that by putting forward such proposals he's effectively biting the hand that feeds him

[choogling 14]

I'd like to explore the potential consequences of your manifesto before becoming too excited by it-for every action there's an equal and opposite reaction.

Would you like to expand on that statement

[choogling 14]

Fabulous pie in the sky idea, but how about situations like where a family have planned children and two incomes and then one parent dies? There are more than two children and they could afford their children, but once their father (for instance) dies, is the state really going to sit on their hands and let the children starve while the mother tries to take care of them?

 

This actually happened to a friend BTW. Aged 26 and with 3 pre-school children, her husband complained of a headache one morning before leaving for work and died of meningitis at lunchtime, leaving her with a very large mortgage, 3 children and no job.

 

Do the children really have to be thrown into poverty in those situations? Personally I think that would be cruel in the extreme and completely against the whole concept of the welfare state.

How do you get a mortgage without having life insurance most companies insist on it?

[boyfriday 21]

Here's some if your struggling:...

 

Women should stay at home freeing up jobs

 

..and should only be permitted to wear plain blouses, A line skirts and gingham aprons, whilst spending the day baking and keeping their rosy cheeked blond children supplied with Robinson's Barley Water or any other weak lemon drink.

[boyfriday 21]

Would you like to expand on that statement

 

Well it rather speaks for itself doesn't it? Would you like to consider the possible negative flipsides to the proposals put forward by the OP? If there are none, such a regime would have been adopted long ago.

[medusa 16]

How do you get a mortgage without having life insurance most companies insist on it?

 

The life insurance pays for the mortgage (after a lengthy delay, during which time they still expect you to pay the mortgage and the life insurance premiums) but that still leaves the family in a house that they can't afford to heat or put food on the table.

 

This is beside the point anyway- if the welfare state will only pay for two children then what happens to the third? Are they just meant to go hungry?

[ronthenekred 10]

The life insurance pays for the mortgage (after a lengthy delay, during which time they still expect you to pay the mortgage and the life insurance premiums) but that still leaves the family in a house that they can't afford to heat or put food on the table.

 

This is beside the point anyway- if the welfare state will only pay for two children then what happens to the third? Are they just meant to go hungry?

 

Yes. We are overpopulated (says Mr Smith) We could employ (less unemployment) barrow boys to collect the starved dead. The dead could then be sold for medical research which would enhance the NHS to enable it to sell its knowledge to the world, or the rich.

[boyfriday 21]

Yes. We are overpopulated (says Mr Smith) We could employ (less unemployment) barrow boys to collect the starved dead. The dead could then be sold for medical research which would enhance the NHS to enable it to sell its knowledge to the world, or the rich.

 

When you think about the trouble Burke & Hare got into over that when they should have been celebrated as heroes

[ronthenekred 10]

When you think about the trouble Burke & Hare got into over that when they should have been celebrated as heroes

 

A damn travesty of justice.

[*_ash_* 88]

 

Foregn aid

To be slashed to the minimum - this to be paid for by a 50p cut in a litre of petrol.

 

The money from foregn aid would be directed to our elderly who have paid into the system all their lives.

 

I don't get this?

 

Foreign Aid slashed and reduce 50p in a litre from what was paid to Foreign Aid, but then you've gone on to say that you would use the money from FAid to go to the elderly. This money would not exist in this case.

[andy_parkin 10]

Here's some if your struggling:...

 

Return of the death penalty

 

Remove all foreigners

 

Women should stay at home freeing up jobs

 

The promotion of Christian values.

 

 

Don't agree with the 3rd one I'm afraid.

 

Another option is this

 

The minimum income guarantee - for a full time worker a guarantee of a minimum income of £250 a week for a full time worker (part time worker would be £125 a week).

 

Lets say someone earns £220 a week, the state would top them up to £250 by giving £30, someone earning £190 each week would get £60 etc.....

 

This would be funded by a cut to benefits to people who refuse work, foregn aid would also be cut to fund this. There would also be the raising of the tax threashold to £12000 a year so work always pays

 

Cuts to drug addition programmes as well as alcohol abuse victims - this money would be diverted to people suffering illnesses that are not lifestyle choices (illnesses through sheer bad luck, cancer dementia etc....)

 

The retirement age would be cut back to 60, which would free up jobs for our young. So in effect, instead of funding young people to not work, we now fund old people to not work (and the young would pay taxes - on earnings after £12000 per annum -) This money would allow people to retire at 60.

 

People in specialised jobs who are 55, would then be given a youth who they would train up so they can do the job when they reach 60. Money would be cut from the FE system, and diverted into training young people to do real jobs. For example, a plumber approaching retirement would be given funding to teach up to 5 young people a trade, passing on his skills.

 

The young people would be learning on the job. Accepted they would not get a nice qualification, but they would gain hands on trade skills which they could then use for paid work in the future.

 

Grammer schools to be funded and only the best (regardless of background) be given scolarships. The current system of favouring the rich is not fair (internships - not good if you don't have rich parents), good schools in good areas and lets not forget private schools for the truely rich.

[andy_parkin 10]

I don't get this?

 

Foreign Aid slashed and reduce 50p in a litre from what was paid to Foreign Aid, but then you've gone on to say that you would use the money from FAid to go to the elderly. This money would not exist in this case.

 

 

 

Money we spend on foregn aid would go to the elderly.

 

Petrol cut by 50p a litre, which would give car owners/familys additional spare cash to spend in the economy, more money in businesses means more money for businesses - the chancellor gets more money because the business has greater takings and pays more tax as a consequqnce.

 

As it stands now, a huge chunk of peoples spare cash goes on petrol/fuel - money which cannot be spent elsewhere