boyfriday   21 #97 Posted August 30, 2012 No matter what definition of "foreign" is used, the face of this country has been changed forever, thanks to Townie Bliar and NEW LIEbour's policy of multiculturism. As for alarmist claptrap rephrase to "simply FACT"  Angel.  The 'face of this country' has been in a perpetual state of change, crikey it's not as if all the indigenous British folks look the same is it?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
choogling   14 #98 Posted August 30, 2012 Well put Mr Prime, I understand your point, but in the final analysis the electorate has consistently voted from a less than reactionary standpoint and parties with a focus on an anti immigration agenda perform poorly at the ballot box. I think most of us are sick of the negative aspects of immigration, however they're superseded by the positive ones, as I said before for every good thing there are negative aspects to it..I'd love to own a Ferrari, but would moan bitterly about the fuel and maintenance costs, but it doesn't affect my desire to take ownership of one. I think most of us are sick of the negative aspects of immigration-yes agree however they're superseded by the positive ones-such as ??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
MrSmith   10 #99 Posted August 30, 2012 How about a British 'Somalian', double Olympic gold medal winner? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mo_Farah  Wouldn’t it have been nice for Somali to have that gold medal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
chem1st   10 #100 Posted August 30, 2012 How do we encourage more English people to have kids, if you accept that we have a demographic problem?  Affordable housing for children born and bred here - whose family lives here.  That also counts fairly new immigrants, now.  Cash incentives, tax incentives.  If they are going to load your children with debt so that they can get an education - only fair to give them a help raising them to the age upon which they can be forced into said debt and taxed heavily afterwards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
chem1st   10 #101 Posted August 30, 2012 Increasing the population just to serve the needs of the elderly creates a bigger problem for the future, because all these people will one day be old and will want the same care. The aging population problem needs to be solved without increasing the population.  They increase it via immigration because our birth rates are so low (below replacement level - if it were not for immigration our population would be both aging and shrinking!).  We need to tackle the birth rate crisis - particularly the low birth rates among certain ethnic groups. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
boyfriday   21 #102 Posted August 30, 2012 Wouldn’t it have been nice for Somali to have that gold medal.  Sorry but as a patriotic Briton I was delighted that this particular Somalian refugee preferred to drape himself in the Union Flag rather than one of the war torn country that had little to offer him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ronthenekred   10 #103 Posted August 30, 2012 Wouldn’t it have been nice for Somali to have that gold medal.  Only if you really think it would be nice.  Or was it a metaphor for ' Get back to Somalia'.  My last sentence wasn't a question, I know the answer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
boyfriday   21 #104 Posted August 30, 2012 I think most of us are sick of the negative aspects of immigration-yes agree however they're superseded by the positive ones-such as ???  It's a subjective view, it's a bit like discussing the merits of foie gras with someone who's palate is more accustomed to liver & onions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
MrSmith   10 #105 Posted August 30, 2012 Only if you really think it would be nice.  Or was it a metaphor for ' Get back to Somalia'.  My last sentence wasn't a question, I know the answer.  Nope I would love to see the UK helping the rest of the world instead of sucking their recourses dry for our own selfish needs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mister M   1,608 #106 Posted August 30, 2012 Affordable housing for children born and bred here - whose family lives here. That also counts fairly new immigrants, now.  Cash incentives, tax incentives.  If they are going to load your children with debt so that they can get an education - only fair to give them a help raising them to the age upon which they can be forced into said debt and taxed heavily afterwards.  Perhaps.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
MrSmith   10 #107 Posted August 30, 2012 Sorry but as a patriotic Briton I was delighted that this particular Somalian refugee preferred to drape himself in the Union Flag rather than one of the war torn country that had little to offer him.  That’s difference between us, I care about the people of other countries, whilst you just care about how they can be exploited. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
boyfriday   21 #108 Posted August 30, 2012 Nope I would love to see the UK helping the rest of the world instead of sucking their recourses dry for our own selfish needs.  How do you think Great Britain got 'great' in the first place? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...