Dragonfall   10 #25 Posted August 30, 2012 The issue here is, what type of cultural change this statistic brings - aside of colour/race etc. If it indicates a rise in the birth of children to closed communities, immigrant ghettos, communities with separatist cultures, then overall, British culture will inevitably change. It's for the individual to decide whether this is a positive or negative thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
MrSmith   10 #26 Posted August 30, 2012 I don't remember reading about many fossilised pre-homo sapiens being discovered in England, ergo, we must have come from somewhere else.  Only the person that comes here is an immigrant, their descendants aren’t immigrants. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
eastbank   10 #27 Posted August 30, 2012 Tell that to the thousands of foreign students who come here every year to study and return to their native countries at the end of their courses.  and think of all the student moves that we would miss out on...and the loss of all those lovely beer vouchers... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
choogling   14 #28 Posted August 30, 2012 Yet they all gave birth to English children. Bernard manning once told a one liner about a stable a dog and a horse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
MrSmith   10 #29 Posted August 30, 2012 Prince Philip? An immigrant doesn't have to settle somewhere permanently. There's an international agreement whereby someone is classed as a migrant if they settle somewhere for more than a year.  I just checked several other dictionaries and they all say the same.  A person who comes to live permanently in a foreign country:  migrant a person who moves from one place to another in order to find work or better living conditions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
MrSmith   10 #30 Posted August 30, 2012 Tell that to the thousands of foreign students who come here every year to study and return to their native countries at the end of their courses.  They aren’t immigrants. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
choogling   14 #31 Posted August 30, 2012 I have no idea why the number of mothers born outside the UK is even something worthy of reference unless you have a problem with the 'outrageously high' proportion, as it appears that the DM have. The implication that mothers born outside the UK are somehow something less than desirable is very clear, and very unpleasant. It is also a view supported by many Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Halibut   12 #32 Posted August 30, 2012 It is also a view supported by many  Do you believe that mothers born outside the UK are somehow less desirable than UK born ones?  If so, why? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
medusa   16 #33 Posted August 30, 2012 Do you believe that mothers born outside the UK are somehow less desirable than UK born ones? If so, why?  And, once you've explained that can you then explain whether the ones that you find undesirable are brown skinned or whether it's everybody who has an accent? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Convict Edd   10 #34 Posted August 30, 2012 Do you believe that mothers born outside the UK are somehow less desirable than UK born ones? If so, why?  And, once you've explained that can you then explain whether the ones that you find undesirable are brown skinned or whether it's everybody who has an accent?  Putting words in another posters mouth, much? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Halibut   12 #35 Posted August 30, 2012 Putting words in another posters mouth, much?  No, asking you what your opinion is - you appear to support the view that foreign born mothers are undesirable. Do you?  If so, why? If not why not?  It's not rocket science. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Convict Edd   10 #36 Posted August 30, 2012 No, asking you what your opinion is - you appear to support the view that foreign born mothers are undesirable. Do you? If so, why? If not why not?  It's not rocket science.  :hihi::hihi:  I love it when you post stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...