Evil scum get 15 years each

[Total Chaos 10]

"Wounding with intent to cause grievous bodily harm"

 

Surely stabbing someone 7 times is attempted murder. Whilst they were stabbing him were they thinking "Oh I'll grievously harm this person" or were they trying to inflict as much damage as possible. If they had shot these men instead of using a knife would it still have been wounding with intent?

 

Depends really,if they shot them in the leg then?or if they shot them in the head?

[woodmally 10]

You're right, it's the way it works that's warped!

 

I was just wondering has anyone tried to defend why our legal system is built in this way. What is the point of giving someone a sentence that they will never comit too as they get released early.

 

Surley the sentence they get should be (if common sense is applied) be the sentence they have. Why are they released early?

[Ousetunes 10]

Lock them up.

 

See how big these gangstas are on de inside.

 

Shame being that they will be fed, watered and looked after.

 

Justice? My arse.

[redfox 10]

To prove a wounding with intent you need to prove that the individual (or as in this case the group) acted in a way which demonstrated an intention to cause really serious harm - stabbing someone repeatedly in the absence of self defence is a very effective way of causing really serious harm.

 

To prove attempted murder you need to show an intention to kill - a higher standard than that required to prove murder - it is very difficult to prove and often S.18 is preferred for that very reason.

If you shoot someone in the head with and they (because of medical intervention) survive then given the use of a weapon discharged at someones head it may be a good deal easier to prove an intention to kill.

[Rupert_Baehr 10]

Lock them up.

 

See how big these gangstas are on de inside.

 

Shame being that they will be fed, watered and looked after.

 

Justice? My arse.

 

 

Could be ... but we don't talk about that.

 

They will, after all, be going to a YOI ... full of young males with lots of hormones.

 

'Don't you make my brown eye blue ...'

[Eckolad 10]

I was just wondering has anyone tried to defend why our legal system is built in this way. What is the point of giving someone a sentence that they will never comit too as they get released early.

 

Surley the sentence they get should be (if common sense is applied) be the sentence they have. Why are they released early?

 

Lots of legal systems work like this. Can you imagine how it would be be if this wasnt the case, How many extra prison places needed etc etc.

 

They are released but they are still technically serving the sentence, just in the community,any breach of the licence and they can be put back in side.

 

I am not defending but just saying how it is

[HeadingNorth 11]

I was just wondering has anyone tried to defend why our legal system is built in this way. What is the point of giving someone a sentence that they will never comit too as they get released early.

 

Surley the sentence they get should be (if common sense is applied) be the sentence they have. Why are they released early?

 

I've explained it, on numerous occasions, but people never seem to read the explanation.

[redfox 10]

Its not just the extra places required but how do you think there is any control over people serving a determinate sentence? You get out early if you behave being the main one - can you imagine a prison full of people doing 15 years and that meant 15 years how do you exert any influence at all over how they behave

[Eckolad 10]

I've explained it, on numerous occasions, but people never seem to read the explanation.

 

And you soon get bored of repeating yourself.....

[Darth Vader 10]

What can possibly make human beings do such a savage thing like this?

 

The attack must have been an ordeal for even the jury to hear about, as the judge gave them a 12 year exemption from jury service. So, the damage they have caused stretches even further.

 

Why aren't the pictures of the other two there for all to see?

[HeadingNorth 11]

Why aren't the pictures of the other two there for all to see?

 

I assume that must be an editorial decision - since all three names are in the public domain, there won't be any legal restrictions on publishing pictures of them.

 

Maybe they didn't have suitably thuggish-looking pictures of the other two?

[Total Chaos 10]

Lock them up.

 

See how big these gangstas are on de inside.

 

Shame being that they will be fed, watered and looked after.Justice? My arse.

 

Exactly,if i ended up later in life one of these pensioners that the government have neglected and cant afford heating,food and electric etc.I would get hold of a toy gun,walk into a bank and rob it,walk outside,lay down and wait for the cops.Lay back and enjoy 10yrs of luxuries.