Evil scum get 15 years each

[LeMaquis 10]

I don't usually throw the expression about lightly but it's apt for Yousef Alquebai, Sheldon Jordan and Reece Barnes, who've just been sentenced to 15years each for knifing Paul Marisson and Daniel Mace just off West Street last year.

 

http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/teenage-sheffield-knife-gang-jailed-for-45-years-1-4788102

[woodmally 10]

Couldnt agree more I just hope it is 15 years and they dont get out for so called good behaviour as is the case with our warped legal system.

[Chris_Sleeps 10]

Awful beyond words.

[taxman 12]

"Wounding with intent to cause grievous bodily harm"

 

Surely stabbing someone 7 times is attempted murder. Whilst they were stabbing him were they thinking "Oh I'll grievously harm this person" or were they trying to inflict as much damage as possible. If they had shot these men instead of using a knife would it still have been wounding with intent?

[Eckolad 10]

Couldnt agree more I just hope it is 15 years and they dont get out for so called good behaviour as is the case with our warped legal system.

 

It's a normal 15 year sentence not IPP so they will do 7.5 years minus time on remand, then 7.5 years on Licence

Legal system isn't warped its the way it works.

Edited July 31, 2012 by Eckolad

[mumkin 10]

It's a normal 15 year sentence not IPP so they will do 7.5 years minus time on remand, then 7.5 years on Licence

Legal system isn't warped its the way it works.

 

You're right, it's the way it works that's warped!

[Rupert_Baehr 10]

It's a normal 15 year sentence not IPP so they will do 7.5 years minus time on remand, then 7.5 years on Licence

Legal system isn't warped its the way it works.

 

Are you sure about that? - The sentence is longer than 4 years. I think you'll find they won't be eligible for release on licence until they have served 2/3. - 10 years less time on remand.

 

"Wounding with intent to cause grievous bodily harm"

 

Surely stabbing someone 7 times is attempted murder. Whilst they were stabbing him were they thinking "Oh I'll grievously harm this person" or were they trying to inflict as much damage as possible. If they had shot these men instead of using a knife would it still have been wounding with intent?

 

If you stab somebody with a knife, you are bound to cause grievous bodily harm. You may (or may not) kill that person.

 

If you charge somebody with attempted murder, then - inter alia - you have to prove an intent to kill.

 

One charge is very much easier to prove than the other. Do you think they would have received a longer sentence for attempted murder?

[fistygrey 10]

Are you sure about that? - The sentence is longer than 4 years. I think you'll find they won't be eligible for release on licence until they have served 2/3. - 10 years less time on remand.

 

 

 

 

That's what I thought they would serve two thirds of the long term sentence.

[Eckolad 10]

Are you sure about that? - The sentence is longer than 4 years. I think you'll find they won't be eligible for release on licence until they have served 2/3. - 10 years less time on remand.

 

 

 

If you stab somebody with a knife, you are bound to cause grievous bodily harm. You may (or may not) kill that person.

 

If you charge somebody with attempted murder, then - inter alia - you have to prove an intent to kill.

 

One charge is very much easier to prove than the other. Do you think they would have received a longer sentence for attempted murder?

 

No I am right.

 

This is because people sentenced under the criminal justice act 2003 serve half of any sentence rather then 2/3 as before.

 

If however you committed a crime in 1989 you would be sentenced under the relevent act as it was then so you would serve 2/3 if a long sentence.

 

But now its all automatic release at half way for determinate sentences. Indeterminate sentences are a different matter.

Edited July 31, 2012 by Eckolad

[Penistone999 10]

Its a shame is isnt 55 years each to keep this cowardly scum off the streets permanently.

[Eckolad 10]

http://www.insidetime.org/articleview.asp?a=244

 

Shows changes in sentencing:)

[CatsEyes4Eva 10]

Yet again this stupid gang culture that we have in Sheffield that brainwashes stupid people into thinking that being in a gang is cool and gives you security. A life for a life they should never be allowed out, I hope they learn their lesson in Prison give them bread and water and nothing else they are not in Prison to have treats and watch television or play pool they are there to pay for their crimes. It should be punishment for them as they murdered another human being, will they learn their lesson from being in Prison?? I hope they do and realise and show remorse to the victims family, for the despicable and disgusting crime they have committed and for what they have done.

Edited July 31, 2012 by CatsEyes4Eva
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