Cyclone Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 I do not get back to Sheffield very often these days but when I do, i find that a lot of drivers are impatient, arrogant and appear to believe that all other drivers are as familiar with the road system as they are. By far the worst offenders are drivers of private cars that look to be aged thirty something (the drivers that is, not the cars) I can't win, it's selfish if I ride my bike and I've now been lumped in with selfish car drivers purely due to my age! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 not saying it right, just saying that's what will happen. Same reason as cops pull car drivers up for going too slowly (well, one of the reasons) I also wouldnt like the fact that I was holding lots of people up. It won't happen, the only way to stop cyclists using a road is to make it a motorway. If the average speed is 5mph then I don't see how a cyclist can hold anyone up at all, at worst they'll just mean it takes longer to reach the queue of traffic ahead of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molly44 Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Neither or the roads for cars, but if car driver thought sod it the pavement looks in better nick I'll drive on there instead, thery'd be bother. If u've a designated area for cycling stick to it! Not pick and chose, if the cycle lane surface is that bad complain, like the car drivers do. Does my head how cyclist seem to think they're been environmental they're above the rules of the road, today had one sat in the left lane in front of me sat at traffic lights, lights change and he wobbles over to the right, no helmet, good and bad in all situations, but cyclist do seem to think they've a 20ft bubble around themselves. i wish!!. even a two foot bubble would be a relief from the constant worry of being shunted off to the side of the road by a car/ bus / lorry. it has not happened that often but the wing mirrors of trucks are the usual points of impact. being hit by one at 30 miles an hour or more is not funny, even with a helmet on. The reason most cyclist wobble a bit is because the roads near the curbs edge are on most roads in poor condition. If your one of the road bike brigade then your wheels and tyres ( which are very thin) would be eaten up by the poor road surface in no time, and that's not mentioning the gaps in the road grates that can easily swallow a thin wheel. I have seen posts where motorist are complaining about the damage done to tracking and suspension parts on their own cars. How do you think a cyclist copes with the sometimes much more damaged road surfaces on the side of many roads? The only thing to do is go around them, ergo the wobble a bit, that's why motorist should also anticipate this when overtaking a vulnerable cyclist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnailyBoy Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 I have never said any such thing! I dont give a crap how you get about, bike car or hovercraft. All I said was that to use a car, you need to buy VED. To use a pushbike, you dont. How hard can that be to understand? When I first posted, it was an observation, that is all. Now its boring, with the same old crap that all cyclists spout on about, clinging together like a lycra clad lynch mob to discredit every other mode of transport except the bicycle. Your welcome to your bikes, lads and lasses, and next time somebody has a go at cyclists about the same old whinges, good luck with it. I wasnt having a pop at any of you. The thing is, when you say on here that a cyclist has done somethime wrong, theres always a chance that some asrehole will get offended. Its nice to see the crazy cycling fraternity getting together to give feeble excuses for their awful riding skills, and quoting from the "Government Approved Cycle Training Scheme For Lycra Clad Road Bigots" manual (feet on both pedals, balance, and away you go, but there might be cars that get in your way) and post it in such a way that they appear quite normal, but its always gonna be against you when you make silly moves on the road, jump a red light, cycle on the path and cause mayhem to pedestrians or just plainly be a total road hog. Many drivers, like me DO expect the unexpected from some of the pillocks on bikes today, but there are a lot of drivers who dont, and I stand by my belief that if you ride (or post) like a pillock, then its tough poo poo when you come a cropper. Good and bad, yes. Totally agree. Sadly, the cyclist has more to lose as he/she is very vunerable which tells me they should take a lot more care on the roads than they do at present. Interestingly, the picture you quote actually shows the car on the INSIDE of the white lines, and although it says give at least a cars width, there is no definition written stating it should be COMPLETELY the wrong side. This is exactly as is says in the highway code, not my definition of it, which is sadly the belief of cyclists today. If you have an indefinate line of traffic heading toward you, you cannot possibly wait till your 70th birthday to overtake a cyclist who is holding up YOUR line of traffic. Two things can happen. You can pass as safely as you can, or you can wait for the cyclist to acknowledge that he/she is causing a tailback, and pull in to let the trapped vehicles pass. Its not a case of "who wins" but a case of common courtesy, as to be fair, it is the cyclist who is causing the hold up, and he/she should really be looking ahead, and the oncoming traffic should tell him/her that there may be trapped traffic behind. You cannot say who has priority on the roads, as we are all equal, but sometimes the motorist cannot do right from wrong when it comes to cyclists as it seems their road knowledge goes to pot as soon as they slip on their lycra. You know, a lot have said "Im a cyclist AND a car driver too", which is why there could be so many bad drivers on our roads today, if they drive their cars as inconsiderately as they ride their bikes. The cycle quips are unrelated to my views, they are not the issue. I dont really think that cycles are important at all. They are a silly, insignificant part of motoring, just like pedestrians are, although pedestrians also hate cyclists who use the footpaths, but most think pedestrian crossings are too far to walk to, so I will cross where I jolly well want to, oh and before anybody talks about the inconsiderate motorist, yes they exist too.......but this "cyclist" arguement is really non-sensical. The main point is the amount paid by each of us to use a car in todays society. It makes my blood boil that me AND you have to pay so much for something that most of us have. A chuffin car. I realise that all of us are road users, no matter which form of transport we use, even pedestrians and cyclists and our respected pensioners and disabled who use electric scooters, so I would appreciate it if you would please allow me to be fuming with the government who decides that car owners must be overcharged just because there is so many of us who have the cheek to own one. The fact that I find cyclists silly billys is nothing more than an outside interest, and totally irrelevant to the issue, although I stand by the fact that some do look like Anne Widdecombe, and really shouldnt wear lycra, ever. Its now become pretty obvious that some people just cannot see that the Government are absolutely bleaching everyone who owns a car. The taxes you pay on fuel, road taxes (or VED as we are led to believe) insurance prices and whatever else you need to have by law, to own a car in this country. We are bombarded with greenies telling us how bad our cars are for the environment, and in general, its not very nice of us to drive a car. You then get your average loony cyclist who thinks he/she is saving the world on their bikes (I wonder if they can get to the airport/asda/seaside/dumpit site/work in another town/hospital/doctors/brothel on their pushbikes) who give the motorist a hard time because "They almost ran me down because I swerved in front of them because im invincible". In short, I dont just spurt crap on this forum about things that I "think" I know about. I am actively involved in lobbying for a fairer deal on fuel, and although some people arent worth fighting for due to their brainwashed opinions, the lobbying is for the good of "Everybody" who needs a car to go about their everyday business. Nobody is for one moment suggesting that a cyclist dosent pay taxes (and who would have thought someone on £500,000 a year would be seen dead in a lycra suit) however, when crunch comes to crunch, in this society today, the car is king, and the day the anti-motorists take their heads from up their asres, and the greenies go back to their allottments, we can all get on with the job in hand, which is denying the government from these obscene charges in place that we are FORCED to pay, by law, just to be able to drive the kids to Jungle Jims, and stop arguing amongst ourselves about who pays more than who. Anyone else seing a trend here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 I think it's one of his fantasies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnailyBoy Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 I think it's one of his fantasies. I didn't want to quote all of the instances, a psychologist would have a field day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number Six Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 .... We might be living in the Eco friendly age were the car is non PC, but its still king in the sense that its most efficient form of independent travel we have ... No it isn't - the bicycle is the most efficient form of transport http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicycle_performance#Energy_efficiency Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny121 Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Really can't be arsed reading all the crap that come from drivers about them owning the road, I suggest you ride faster :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number Six Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Really can't be arsed reading all the crap that come from drivers about them owning the road, I suggest you ride faster :-) Drivers drive, cyclists ride. Your post seems to mix these up. I only have a short commute. I may overtake 4 or 5 cyclists on the way to work. If I catch them where there is no space to pass straight away, I may get momentarily held up. If those cyclists were to drive instead I'd certainly get stuck behind their car at traffic lights and so on, and if they took the bus I'd get stuck behind that whilst they got on and off, which is why it takes me longer to get to work on a rainy day. If someone is going the same way as you, they will slow you down to some extent, regardless of how they do it. Just deal with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamf Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 I only have a short commute. I may overtake 4 or 5 cyclists on the way to work. If I catch them where there is no space to pass straight away, I may get momentarily held up. If those cyclists were to drive instead I'd certainly get stuck behind their car at traffic lights and so on, and if they took the bus I'd get stuck behind that whilst they got on and off, which is why it takes me longer to get to work on a rainy day. If someone is going the same way as you, they will slow you down to some extent, regardless of how they do it. Just deal with it. You're too sensible. Have you come to the right place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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