PeteMorris   10 #37 Posted April 24, 2012 Not all carers are on minimum wage- if you have specialist skills or are more experienced and therefore do a more responsible role then those both affect the wage. Granted it's not high compared to a lot of other jobs, but it's more than just enough to scrape by on too. There are also a lot of people who CHOOSE to be support or care workers, including those who do have previously had other careers. In most care scenarios there are still way more people applying for jobs than there are jobs available, so if the jobs are so dreadful and so badly paid, why would there be (for instance, the most recent one I know of) 130 applicants for 2 positions?  That's exactly my point. Jobs are scarce. Hence appallingly low pay. My OH works in a care home, so I do know what the rates are (at least where she works). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
pattricia   574 #38 Posted April 24, 2012 Geriatric and Dementia care is the Cinderella of the nursing profession. No one wants to train for it, especially doctors. I think there should be a special diploma in this kind of care. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
poppins   10 #39 Posted April 24, 2012 That's what hoists are for. Lifting the weight of another person is strictly against the rules in care homes and the NHS because of the risk of back injury to the person doing the lifting. There are hoists that can lift people all the way from lying on the floor to a standing position or into a chair too.  I'm not sure what you care homes exactly are, are they nursing homes ? Then they use lifts, what kind of homes do people go in before they need nursing home care, we have assisted livings that have seperate Alzheimer's units usually , as one seems to feed the other, then the last stop is the nursing home Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
janie48   95 #40 Posted April 24, 2012 I'm not sure what you care homes exactly are, are they nursing homes ? Then they use lifts, what kind of homes do people go in before they need nursing home care, we have assisted livings that have seperate Alzheimer's units usually , as one seems to feed the other, then the last stop is the nursing home  Nursing Homes are for clients who need a higher level of support,that require nursing needs.So a certain number of staff have to have a nurse qualification.  Care Homes are for those whose needs are more limited,and anyone without a qualification can own and manage one of these homes.Staff with extra responsibility who also assist in the hands on care for clients are expected to have gained training in health care and have a NVQ qualification for instance, but it isn't mandatory for all staff. Shorter courses are available for untrained staff,such as lifting and handling etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Frank Sidney   11 #41 Posted April 24, 2012 Plus we live in a less caring world these days. I don't think its just carers at the bottom. Nurses are also less capable than they were. I'm fortunate to have never been in hospital. I listen to my cousin, who's a senior nurse with the NHS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
nikita   10 #42 Posted April 24, 2012 (edited) Plus we live in a less caring world these days. I don't think its just carers at the bottom. Nurses are also less capable than they were. I'm fortunate to have never been in hospital. I listen to my cousin, who's a senior nurse with the NHS.[/QUO  Are you going to enlighten us what your senior nurse cousin in the nhs says .just in case we ever have to have experiance with them,in the future. Edited April 24, 2012 by nikita Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
janie48 Â Â 95 #43 Posted April 24, 2012 Plus we live in a less caring world these days. I don't think its just carers at the bottom. Nurses are also less capable than they were. I'm fortunate to have never been in hospital. I listen to my cousin, who's a senior nurse with the NHS. Â Various opinions from patients, most seem satisfied. I agree that the standard of care is not what it used to be in Hospitals,basically due to staff shortages and impossible demands,but i don't think that anything as scandalous as the abuse that happened in that home could happen in an NHS Hospital. I know money should not come into this,but those private homes are charging extortionate fees. Â And what about this latest news that happened so close to home. Â Â http://www.itv.com/news/calendar/2012-04-24/inquest-into-care-home-death/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
bongo_fish   10 #44 Posted April 24, 2012 Just love how there all immigrants in the video Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
laineyiow   10 #45 Posted April 24, 2012 A lot of the problem is that these care homes are just a business and nothing else. I know of a care home run by an ex-Bank manager. He bought one home about 8 years ago and now owns 3 care homes. He knows nothing about caring but plenty about finance! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
janie48 Â Â 95 #46 Posted April 24, 2012 A lot of the problem is that these care homes are just a business and nothing else. I know of a care home run by an ex-Bank manager. He bought one home about 8 years ago and now owns 3 care homes. He knows nothing about caring but plenty about finance! Â Where you live it would be a big money making profit,as it is in other seaside places. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
poppins   10 #47 Posted April 24, 2012 Nursing Homes are for clients who need a higher level of support,that require nursing needs.So a certain number of staff have to have a nurse qualification. Care Homes are for those whose needs are more limited,and anyone without a qualification can own and manage one of these homes.Staff with extra responsibility who also assist in the hands on care for clients are expected to have gained training in health care and have a NVQ qualification for instance, but it isn't mandatory for all staff. Shorter courses are available for untrained staff,such as lifting and handling etc.  Thanks Jane, that explains it clearly, you sound like a nurse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
janie48 Â Â 95 #48 Posted April 24, 2012 Thanks Jane, that explains it clearly, you sound like a nurse. Â Was one.I'm a bit out of touch,but have plenty of friends in the profession,so i hear a lot about it. I havn't got the energy now,must be the wrong age. Miss it though! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...