Shocking abuse of the Elderly.

[ferno 10]

The rules and regulations imposed on all health workers and NHS staff are the same. Sorry to disappoint the racists, but race has nothing whatsoever to do with it.

[Frank Sidney 11]

Training has.

[janie48 95]

We'll drive off Beechy Head in an old Ford Cortina when its time to cash the chips in...

 

If wev'e still got our mental faculties,and are not driving everyone round the bend.

[medusa 16]

I didn't realise that males are allowed to give personal care to females.I know females are allowed to give personal care to males though.

 

Shocking story all the same,but what can be done to stop it? Apart from have cameras installed.

 

They are allowed and some women actually prefer it.

 

One of my family is a carer for people with dementia and every carer in the unit is in demand from certain patients. My rellie is in demand from the men who prefer to be shaved by another man and he's also got 2 ladies who are putty in his hands but are combative, angry and uncooperative when the female carers are on shift.

[rubydazzler 11]

They are allowed and some women actually prefer it ...

I read about this rather than watched the programme, and the daughter said that they'd requested that personal care was only given by females, as her mother was very modest. They'd also requested she wasn't fed fish or pasta as she didn't like either, and no sweet tea. The upshot of this request had been that her mother was given corned beef sandwiches and water to drink.

 

Although, if we're honest, this sort of mean behaviour with food and feeding isn't restricted to nursing homes, it happens in the NHS as well. It seems that the caring professions are no longer very caring, and I don't think that has anything at all to do with the pay.

 

Who wants to find themselves in this sort of horrific situation, a round of Brompton Cocktails for us oldies, I think, whilst we're still in a position to make the choice.

[poppins 10]

Men are needed for heavy lifting, most patients in last stages of Alzheimer's are deadweight and hard to move ,even just to another position in bed.

[medusa 16]

Men are needed for heavy lifting, most patients in last stages of Alzheimer's are deadweight and hard to move ,even just to another position in bed.

 

That's what hoists are for. Lifting the weight of another person is strictly against the rules in care homes and the NHS because of the risk of back injury to the person doing the lifting.

 

There are hoists that can lift people all the way from lying on the floor to a standing position or into a chair too.

[PeteMorris 10]

I'm loathe to say it, but low pay is the root of the evil that happens. Anyone worth their salt with appropriate qualifications will choose employment in a better paid sector of care. As the old adage goes "if you pay peanuts, you get monkeys". If you can clear the CRB check in most of these places, you've got the job, as the wages are appalling, and there's always some other clown waiting in the wings to replace you if you complain or whatever.

[shane39 10]

I'm loathe to say it, but low pay is the root of the evil that happens. Anyone worth their salt with appropriate qualifications will choose employment in a better paid sector of care. As the old adage goes "if you pay peanuts, you get monkeys". If you can clear the CRB check in most of these places, you've got the job, as the wages are appalling, and there's always some other clown waiting in the wings to replace you if you complain or whatever.

 

I agree with you in most parts,but,there are a lot of people in their 40s and 50s who are professionals,and come into this type of work when they lose their jobs.

 

Don't forget the bankers and MPs are well paid,and look at the misery they cause.

[medusa 16]

I'm loathe to say it, but low pay is the root of the evil that happens. Anyone worth their salt with appropriate qualifications will choose employment in a better paid sector of care. As the old adage goes "if you pay peanuts, you get monkeys". If you can clear the CRB check in most of these places, you've got the job, as the wages are appalling, and there's always some other clown waiting in the wings to replace you if you complain or whatever.

 

Not all carers are on minimum wage- if you have specialist skills or are more experienced and therefore do a more responsible role then those both affect the wage. Granted it's not high compared to a lot of other jobs, but it's more than just enough to scrape by on too.

 

There are also a lot of people who CHOOSE to be support or care workers, including those who do have previously had other careers. In most care scenarios there are still way more people applying for jobs than there are jobs available, so if the jobs are so dreadful and so badly paid, why would there be (for instance, the most recent one I know of) 130 applicants for 2 positions?

[janie48 95]

That's what hoists are for. Lifting the weight of another person is strictly against the rules in care homes and the NHS because of the risk of back injury to the person doing the lifting.

 

There are hoists that can lift people all the way from lying on the floor to a standing position or into a chair too.

 

Yes, and they don't employ male nurses/carers because their physically stronger,the work that they do is equel to the female staff.Its just that there are more males choosing to enter the profession then what there used to be.

[janie48 95]

I'm loathe to say it, but low pay is the root of the evil that happens. Anyone worth their salt with appropriate qualifications will choose employment in a better paid sector of care. As the old adage goes "if you pay peanuts, you get monkeys". If you can clear the CRB check in most of these places, you've got the job, as the wages are appalling, and there's always some other clown waiting in the wings to replace you if you complain or whatever.

 

One of the biggest problems is that the untrained staff are not supervised properly.There may be only one qualified member of staff on a shift in these homes.