spooky3 Â Â 10 #25 Posted April 19, 2012 Of course you do. Â Thankyou, I know. Â Â My rules apply to me just as others. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Halibut   12 #26 Posted April 19, 2012 My rules apply to me just as others.  Just as others what? That sentence doesn't make sense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
spooky3 Â Â 10 #27 Posted April 19, 2012 Just as others what? That sentence doesn't make sense. Â Oh yes it does Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Halibut   12 #28 Posted April 19, 2012 Oh yes it does  No, it's grammatically nonsensical.  Which rules are you on about anyway? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
spooky3   10 #29 Posted April 19, 2012 No, it's grammatically nonsensical. Which rules are you on about anyway?  No it's not!  The one's stated in my original quote on this bit...   EDIT:  If it helps you understand, try it this way with the extra "to"... "My rules apply to me just as TO others."  What i'm saying is I do my utmost not to be a hypocrite! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
flamingjimmy   10 #30 Posted April 19, 2012 I'm very left wing and proud of it when it comes to social issues but I really don't know where I stand on economics. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Cavegirl   10 #31 Posted April 19, 2012 I definately fall into the far left category. I do strongly believe that the world would be a better place to live in without social competition, inequality and a capitalist economy if the people were educated enough to understand the social responsibilites that arise from egalitarianism, were willing to participate voluntarily in their communities and were capable of preventing the rise of power hungry egotists through their social relationships (all of which have been acheived over very long periods of time in the past).  I don't believe at all that this is an impossible scenario, but I understand it seems unacheivable to most when considered from the perspective of being raised within a right wing relatively totalitarian society that is economically complex. It wouldn't seem so unacheivable to an African tribesman who was acquainted with western technology, for example- so it's really just about an individual's social conditioning. It's a matter of complexity essentially. Today we have simple social relationships (buying a product from a person is a simple exchange of money for product, for example- no actual relationship is necessary) running in conjunction with a complex economy and system of trade. A far left society would have highly complex and strongly developed social relationships and a highly organised, but much simplified system of trade- more localised and more rational.  I believe that when a future society finally does occur based upon far left principles (particularly having overthrown hierarchical control) then that will be considered the true peak of advanced civilisation and they'll look back on us as barbarians for the way we treat anybody that doesn't live up to the western capitalist ideal of the perfect worker (which is how we currently judge a persons beauty and social value). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Halibut   12 #32 Posted April 19, 2012 No it's not! The one's stated in my original quote on this bit...  Your original post didn't have any rules in it. It had definitions in it.   EDIT: If it helps you understand, try it this way with the extra "to"... "My rules apply to me just as TO others."  Thanks for that gracious admission that it was indeed grammatically incorrect. What i'm saying is I do my utmost not to be a hypocrite!  Hurrah. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
spooky3 Â Â 10 #33 Posted April 19, 2012 Your original post didn't have any rules in it. It had definitions in it. ... Â Well noticed, it does actually refer to some though doesn't it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
spooky3 Â Â 10 #34 Posted April 19, 2012 ... I believe that when a future society finally does occur based upon far left principles (particularly having overthrown hierarchical control) then that will be considered the true peak of advanced civilisation and they'll look back on us as barbarians for the way we treat anybody that doesn't live up to the western capitalist ideal of the perfect worker (which is how we currently judge a persons beauty and social value). Â So, saying communism is a far left society, how do they view and treat workers who don't conform to the standard? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Cavegirl   10 #35 Posted April 19, 2012 So, saying communism is a far left society, how do they view and treat workers who don't conform to the standard?  You know as well as I do that Communism is a totalitarian version of the left (with a state party controlling the masses) the way that Nazism is a totalitarian version of the right. I don't believe that hierarchical totalitarianism is good for a society on any side of the spectrum as I stated in my post. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
spooky3 Â Â 10 #36 Posted April 19, 2012 You know as well as I do that Communism is a totalitarian version of the left (with a state party controlling the masses) the way that Nazism is a totalitarian version of the right. I don't believe that hierarchical totalitarianism is good for a society on any side of the spectrum as I stated in my post. Â Out of interest, what is the similar far right variation? Actually, I can imagine... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...