Why not this much celebration on St. Georges day??

[maloney111 10]

If, as it would seem this entire argument centres around 'can we can't we fly a flag' then there aren't that many in evidence during Paddy's day so maybe we should simply celebrate St Georges without one. The day itself is enough to notify the world that it's English.

Throw in some warm lager and mushy peas to symbolise the North and Southern half of the country then just party.

 

warm lager,mushy peas, how sickley, have done with it and throw in some screaming kids

[Rich 12]

St George was actually Welsh, not English... FACT! Look it up on Google or Wikipedia.

[Murphy Jnr 10]

warm lager,mushy peas, how sickley, have done with it and throw in some screaming kids

 

Now you're getting in the spirit, you'll be wearing a big green hat before the night's out.

[melthebell 862]

St George was actually Welsh, not English... FACT! Look it up on Google or Wikipedia.

erm wiki says "Saint George (c. 275/281 – 23 April 303) was, according to tradition, a Roman soldier from Syria Palaestina"

 

wheres wales come into it??

[HeadingNorth 11]

erm wiki says "Saint George (c. 275/281 – 23 April 303) was, according to tradition, a Roman soldier from Syria Palaestina"

 

wheres wales come into it??

 

He may have got confused with Saint Patrick, who definitely wasn't Irish and is believed to have come from Wales. He worked in Ireland, but wasn't born there.

 

Saint George definitely wasn't English, but nobody has ever claimed he was Welsh. Syria (then part of the Ottoman Empire) is the most likely suspect.

[Deltic 10]

St George was actually Welsh, not English... FACT! Look it up on Google or Wikipedia.

 

Wikipedia shows him as Syrian FACT.

 

Although I remember a more recent bit of research suggesting he was a somewhat dodgy quartermaster in the Roman army in Turkey. That would of course explain how a 'dragon' found it's way into the legend.

 

Damn beaten by mel...... Hmmmm.....

Edited March 17, 2012 by Deltic
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[Colin Foster 70]

St George was actually Welsh, not English... FACT! Look it up on Google or Wikipedia.

 

I accept he wasn't English....but that is complete and utter rubbish.

[dismay 10]

Just because Wikipedia states something it does not mean it is factual, FACT.

 

Try citing Wikipedia a source material for a History Degree essay and be deafened by the laughs from academia.

 

Everything surrounding St. George should be taken with a bucket full of salt so no one with any certainty can say where he was born.

 

As for the St Paddy's day excuse for getting hammered it is rather like all the sad individuals coming out of the woodwork and getting all excited for whatever sporting event is playing. World Cup, Rugby World Cup, Ashes etc. etc. etc. when in reality for the vast majority of their lives they don't give a monkeys.

 

Their really is nothing so pitiful as watching a group of drunken morons desperately trying to belong shouting for a team or event.

[melthebell 862]

roll on John Lillbourne day, a proper english hero

[alchemist 35]

Agreed entirely. By the way, St Pat was English.

 

English slave trader it seems now as well

[SUPERDREAM 10]

Agreed entirely. By the way, St Pat was English.

 

Nope. Scottish.

[Orphee 10]

Well its Paddy's day today and town is rammed with people drinking, in fancy dress, face paint, special stalls etc........ All Mainly English people. Yet on St.Georges day theres hardly anything! We get done for flaunting our flag, theres nothing goes off in town in comparison.....its a disgrace! So many English people celebrate an Irish celebration and do nothing for their own. Shameful.

 

It's odd, I'll give you that. St Patrick's became a commodity, a fashion and a fetish. Irish drunkenness and maudlin self-mythologising is a cliche that can be sold to others.

 

Over the last few years I have seen far more celebration of St George's Day, but that Saint means as little to England as St Patrick does to Ireland. You have to believe in Saints and Gods for a start. Then you have to think that being born quite by chance in one particular country is cause for celebration over any other. Why not just have a Planet Earth Day?