splodgeyAl   10 #133 Posted March 13, 2012 What other rules of operation are there? The one that say 6 customers buying a bun and a coffee each pay a different amount to 6 customers buying a coffee and a bun each, or that a bun and a coffee for each of six people is a different price again!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
barleycorn   10 #134 Posted March 13, 2012 1. 6 3. 8.75 4. 17.5 what happened to question 2?  Willman is of the opinion that BODMAS does not apply to examples with no brackets. The very site he linked to disagrees with him. I posted the specific questions which show him to be wrong.  Congratulations on getting all three questions wrong.  1. A, 7 3. D, 20 4. C, 18  http://www.mathopolis.com/questions/a.php?id=295&ansno=1695 http://www.mathopolis.com/questions/a.php?id=1565&ansno=6795 http://www.mathopolis.com/questions/a.php?id=1571&ansno=6818  jb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
dosxuk   10 #135 Posted March 13, 2012 So, if I think about this as 6 customers buying a coffee and bun, we have: 6 x 1.05 + 3.50, which is £9.80!!!  Three versions of the same sum - three different answers because BODMAS does not apply?  Honestly - one can only laugh!  It get's even worse if you have 6 coffees and 6 rolls ordered in that order :- 6 x 1.05 + 6 x 3.50 = 6.30 + 6 x 3.50 = 12.30 x 3.50 = 43.05 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
willman   10 #136 Posted March 13, 2012 The answer to the op is still 0. If you don't want to believe it or would prefer to ridicule or find fault please feel free.  If brackets aren't there,then they don't exist so BODMAS does not apply. If its on a page discussing BODMAS it should be common sense that BODMAS will apply wouldn't you think? As are all the "trick" questions posed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
splodgeyAl   10 #137 Posted March 13, 2012 The answer to the op is still 0. If you don't want to believe it or would prefer to ridicule or find fault please feel free.  If brackets aren't there,then they don't exist so BODMAS does not apply. I guess someone had better tell every database vendor they need to re-write their maths engine? select 5 + 3 * 0; +-----------+ | 5 + 3 * 0 | +-----------+ | 5 | +-----------+ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
dosxuk   10 #138 Posted March 13, 2012 Willman is of the opinion that BODMAS does not apply to examples with no brackets. The very site he linked to disagrees with him. I posted the specific questions which show him to be wrong.  Although he now seems to be saying they apply to those questions, because even without the brackets, you can still apply the BODMAS rules if the question is written on a page about BODMAS. Is that right Willman?  Even the questions which are on a completely different site and don't mention BODMAS anywhere on the page, but I'm guessing that's besides the point... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
nickycheese   10 #139 Posted March 13, 2012 I guess someone had better tell every database vendor they need to re-write their maths engine? select 5 + 3 * 0; +-----------+ | 5 + 3 * 0 | +-----------+ | 5 | +-----------+  And Excel:  Input "=5+3*0" Result = 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
nikki-red   307 #140 Posted March 13, 2012 My 14 year old just informed me the answer is indeed 5, due to Bidmas « Brackets, indices, division, multiplication, add & subtract Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
dosxuk   10 #141 Posted March 13, 2012 The answer to the op is still 0. If you don't want to believe it or would prefer to ridicule or find fault please feel free.  If brackets aren't there,then they don't exist so BODMAS does not apply. If its on a page discussing BODMAS it should be common sense that BODMAS will apply wouldn't you think? As are all the "trick" questions posed.  Willman - can you please find and link to a written example of a sum where: a) brackets are not implied (like in your shop example) b) addition / subtraction and multiplication / division are included c) BODMAS does not apply Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
willman   10 #142 Posted March 13, 2012 And Excel: Input "=5+3*0" Result = 5  Using a formula in excel places brackets around the sum,making it follow BODMAS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
alchresearch   214 #143 Posted March 13, 2012 At school I was taught to read it as:  5 plus the sum of 3 * 0. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
dosxuk   10 #144 Posted March 13, 2012 Using a formula in excel places brackets around the sum  No it doesn't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...