Anyone been seen by atos and kept incapacity benefit/esa?

[tony_montana 10]

as i've said before i don't work for atos at present and haven't in the past, and i'd be a fool to rule out any future employment options on the say so of randomers on an internet forum. As a Health Professional with a long term condition who works in a clinical area dealing with a different set of long term conditions, i have had a fair bit of exposure to the systems in question

 

as for you assertions about mental health training, that's odd because all Nurses and OTs undertake some training and placements in mental health clinical areas as part of their pre -registration education, or perhaps i'm telling lies there and didn't spend several months on placement in mental health settings as Student ... as are the student OTs who have been present when i see my OT ( who works for the mental health trust )...

 

it's also interesting that you feel the need to resort to attacking me personally rather than providing evidence for your assertions and accusations.

 

why dont any of atos's examiners hold a Diploma in Disability Assessment Medicine? (The Diploma in Disability Assessment Medicine (DDAM) is a professional qualification for medical practitioners in the assessment of disability and is important for doctors undertaking work in relation to the award of state sickness and disability benefits)

 

surely you would imagine this would be the bare minimum that is required rather than fast tracking midwifes to use a computer tick box system

[tony_montana 10]

also if atos and the dwp/goverment have nothing to hide why do they make everyone undertaking medicals on their behalf sign the official secrets act?

[zippy 10]

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surely you would imagine this would be the bare minimum that is required rather than fast tracking midwifes to use a computer tick box system

 

is there any proof that there are direct entry Midwives working for Atos in this role ?

 

for many years to become a Midwife you had to be a Registered General Nurse first, it's only in the past 15 or so years that direct entry to midwifery has been possible in the UK and even then there are still significant numbers of RGNs ( old part 1) / RN (Adult) (old part 12) who gain their Midwifery registration by virtue of a 'conversion' course ( of 18 months to 2 years) after post registration experience as as a Registered Nurse.

[zippy 10]

also if atos and the dwp/goverment have nothing to hide why do they make everyone undertaking medicals on their behalf sign the official secrets act?

 

again proof of that assertion, or do you in fact mean the usual contractual terms that any health and social care employer makes with regard to the confidentiality of patient / client information ...

[tony_montana 10]

is there any proof that there are direct entry Midwives working for Atos in this role ?

 

for many years to become a Midwife you had to be a Registered General Nurse first, it's only in the past 15 or so years that direct entry to midwifery has been possible in the UK and even then there are still significant numbers of RGNs ( old part 1) / RN (Adult) (old part 12) who gain their Midwifery registration by virtue of a 'conversion' course ( of 18 months to 2 years) after post registration experience as as a Registered Nurse.

 

yes there is, perhaps you should research the company before you defend them,

the information is all out there

[tony_montana 10]

again proof of that assertion, or do you in fact mean the usual contractual terms that any health and social care employer makes with regard to the confidentiality of patient / client information ...

 

i refer to my previous answer

[medusa 16]

I havnt got a problem with genuine cases.

 

That's not what you stated in your first post. Can I suggest that you think before posting a statement that you then have to retract on threads in future?

 

I have disabilities. I'd love to see how you would make my arm work again when the combined medical fraternity of the Weston Park Hospital, the Royal Hallamshire Hospital, the multidisciplinary team at the Royal Orthopaedic Hospital in Birmingham and a whole selection of physiotherapists, osteopaths and GPs have failed to get any movement back in the muscle groups that I've had taken out or had the nerves that power them taken out.

[zippy 10]

yes there is, perhaps you should research the company before you defend them,

the information is all out there

 

you made the assertion you prove it provide a name and /or a NMC practitioner PIN and we can all verify this using the NMC register check

 

http://www.nmc-uk.org/Search-the-register/

 

it is the custom of both science and the law that someone who makes an assertion provides evidence to support that assertion, rather than turning round and saying that those who challenge an assertion need to find the proof...

 

this reminds me of a scenario that arose on another forum i am a member of when people were suggesting that the Nurse who was arrested with regard to the Stepping hill IV fluids tampering case was ' a midwife' becasue she was registered with the Nursing and midwifery Council, the NMC is the regiulator for all Nurses, Midwifves , and specialist and community public health Nurses in the UK, which parts ( Nurse, Midwife, SCPHN) ( and former sub-parts) of the register you are listed in determines what areas of practice you are qualified in not the fact that midwifery appears in the name of the professional regulator...

[zippy 10]

i refer to my previous answer

 

once again you have breached the conventions of Science and Law in making an assertion but refusing to provide evidence of the basis of your assertions, you aren't very good at this discussion and debate thing are you ?

[juniee 10]

you do not know what is wrong with me and I am not going to discuss it on an open forum

no i do not have a bad back

yes I have heard of the mobility compoment of DLA

This is another benefit that ATOS are denying people

as I have stated before most jobs require you to use your hands

when You have worked for forty years and more doing a variety of jobs come back

The lima programme is still banned in other places as you well know and you would please stop insulting my intelligence

i shall presume that you have shares in UNUM and ATOS

oh while I am here I would love to go back to work

let me ask you have you ever cleaned toilets, mopped up sick

seen people sanctioned because of mental health, worked in engineering.

worked with asbestos, done telesales

oh have just realised in your world asbestosis, copd does not exist, everyone lives forever

to close,enjoy your wonderful world where everything is possible and think of the people who have committed sucide due to this test

because they believed the kind of ill informed tripe that is being put about by some people and didn't seek appropriate advice ... it's amazing isn't it how people who receive appropriate advice on these issues have so much more success than those who refuse to seek advice and post tripe .

..

and you call yourself a nurse or whatever, my understanding is that you are supposed to have empathy or even just basic compassion for other people

go and tell their families that which you have just stated

Edited May 9, 2012 by juniee

[HeadingNorth 11]

That's not what you stated in your first post. Can I suggest that you think before posting a statement that you then have to retract on threads in future?

 

Actually she never did claim that all benefit claimants are scroungers, you made that up. Perhaps you should take your own advice, after you've apologised to her.

[sheff1johnny 10]

Its about time benefits were stopped this is y the ecenomy is in such a state.

majority of em are just bone idol.

 

to headingnort, was quite a statement!

Edited May 9, 2012 by sheff1johnny