Cameron tries to do "a Blair" (and fails?)

[Lucifer 10]

Haven't we been here before?

 

Iran trying to build nuclear missiles capable of hitting London, Cameron warns MPs

 

Yes, but will they be capable of being deployed in 45 minutes?

 

'Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me'

 

It's quite clear that the US, along with its tame poodle the UK, are going to attack Iran. That's baked in the cake. The only thing left now is to do a "One Man and his Dog" act with their respective sheeple.

 

The racists and Islamophobes on SF certainly won't need any convincing.

 

It is important that we invade all countries that have oil, ( when will someone invade America ?. ) because we need it like breathing.

Why do we invade Afganistan who grow lots of poppies that we celebrate every year, is there smoke before our eyes. ?.

[HeadingNorth 11]

I've forgotten, due to my many years in America, that you don't actually vote for a Prime Minister. He's selected by the members of his own party. He's basically just another MP, with hopefully a bit of additional nounce than his colleagues. Watching the antics of Romney. Gingrich, and Santorum, I'm beginning to wonder which of us has the better method of democracy.

 

It isn't the method that's the problem. It's the numpties who get to vote.

 

The reason you have "the antics of Romney, Gingrich and Santorum" is because all the normal, sensible-acting people who threw their hat in the ring, didn't get any votes.

[Rich 12]

If America wants to fight Iran over its Nuclear armament, let them get on with it, leave the UK out of it, it's got nothing to do with us.

 

Just like Afghanistan IMO, so far over 400 British troops have died over there, for what? They should bring our boys home at once, and let the US Forces get on with it.

[JFKvsNixon 11]

Like it or not, the example of Iraq has shown the world if you don't have a nuclear deterrent, you WILL be invaded.

 

There are plenty of countries without a nuclear deterrent that haven't been invaded.

[samshe 10]

The only country that has ever used a Nuclear Weapon is America, they have done it twice. So, in my opinion, America pontificating about the existence of nuclear weapons held by any state is like Ian Huntley lecturing about how to look after young girls. It is offensive in it's hypocracy.

 

I believe that the world would be a safer place if Iran had nuclear weapons.

 

Consider this, below are the Wars that America have been involved in since ww2;

 

Korea,

Vietnam,

Grenada,

Panama,

Iraq,

Somalia,

Kosovo,

Afghanistan,

Iraq

 

During the same time frame, this is what the Iranians have been doing;

 

Oman(the Dhofar Rebellion - Iran were on the same side as the UK)

Iraq (defendging themselves from invasion)

Afghanistan (Iran had issues with the Taliban over a decade before anyone in the west gave a damn)

 

So I ask you all to make an OBJECTIVE decision on who you would trust to have a nuclear missile?

 

I know that some people will comment on the "wipe Israel off the map" quote. However, I will again ask you to don your "objectivity cap" and ask you which is worse;

 

Party A (Iran) making vulgar and offensive threats towards a 3rd party (Israel)

 

Or

 

Party B (USA) who have not only made threats, but carried out the threats resulting in the deaths of MILLIONS of people.

 

So Party A is charged with inciting violence and Party B is charged with mass murder and crimes against humainty. Remind me, which is the "good" side again?

[immortal-tec 10]

Does anybody think it would be a good idea to allow Iran to gain a nuclear weapon capability?

 

yes i think they have the right to these weapons

 

the fact is the Israeli regime has threatened to USE them against Iran!

 

 

the fact is if Iran did have the Bomb ( which by the way there is ZERO evidence to say they are developing one ) if Iran would use the bomb it would mean suicide ! as a counter attack would wipe the Iranian population out!

 

 

the main threat is the Israeli regime which from what i can see is beyond and above all international laws and treatys when it comes to Nuclear weapons.

[immortal-tec 10]

The only country that has ever used a Nuclear Weapon is America, they have done it twice. So, in my opinion, America pontificating about the existence of nuclear weapons held by any state is like Ian Huntley lecturing about how to look after young girls. It is offensive in it's hypocracy.

 

I believe that the world would be a safer place if Iran had nuclear weapons.

 

Consider this, below are the Wars that America have been involved in since ww2;

 

Korea,

Vietnam,

Grenada,

Panama,

Iraq,

Somalia,

Kosovo,

Afghanistan,

Iraq

 

During the same time frame, this is what the Iranians have been doing;

 

Oman(the Dhofar Rebellion - Iran were on the same side as the UK)

Iraq (defendging themselves from invasion)

Afghanistan (Iran had issues with the Taliban over a decade before anyone in the west gave a damn)

 

So I ask you all to make an OBJECTIVE decision on who you would trust to have a nuclear missile?

 

I know that some people will comment on the "wipe Israel off the map" quote. However, I will again ask you to don your "objectivity cap" and ask you which is worse;

 

Party A (Iran) making vulgar and offensive threats towards a 3rd party (Israel)

 

Or

 

Party B (USA) who have not only made threats, but carried out the threats resulting in the deaths of MILLIONS of people.

 

So Party A is charged with inciting violence and Party B is charged with mass murder and crimes against humainty. Remind me, which is the "good" side again?

 

 

Actually Iran is more peaceful than most people understand it too be!

 

 

The media and political Hypocracy is to blame for peoples perceptions of Iran.

 

Consider this , the Taliban invaded a part of Iran and Butchered Iranian officials while they were screaming for help on the phone, The Iranian could have gone to all out war or at least hit them back with a counter attack , ( Iranian forces did build up on the border ) but then it as decided to stand down.

 

compare this was Israel who were attacked by Hezbollah and a few soldiers were kidnapped and then killed , the response was all out war , mass bombing campaign and thousands of "civilians" killed.

 

 

war Hawks are in the seat of power! was with Iran seems inevitable all that is needed is to convince at least HALF the population that it is required.

[mj.scuba 10]

yes i think they have the right to these weapons

 

the fact is the Israeli regime has threatened to USE them against Iran!

 

 

the fact is if Iran did have the Bomb ( which by the way there is ZERO evidence to say they are developing one ) if Iran would use the bomb it would mean suicide ! as a counter attack would wipe the Iranian population out!

 

 

the main threat is the Israeli regime which from what i can see is beyond and above all international laws and treatys when it comes to Nuclear weapons.

 

Israel won't even publicly admit having them, so when exactly did they threaten to use them against Iran?

 

Israel has never threatened the very existence of any other country, yet this is the threat they face from countries like Iran.

[Jim Graham 10]

It isn't the method that's the problem. It's the numpties who get to vote.

 

 

 

Isn't that the problem here too? In Sheffield we produce some of the least intelligent people in the country. Then we let them vote in one of their own to run the council. What could possibly go wrong?

 

When you look at it like that everything makes sense.

[buck 11]

Indeed Bliar was a socialist, the best and the worst kind, the original CHAMPAGNE socialist.

 

The real Socialist's were simply duped by Bliar, hook, line and sinker. They just could not wait to jump onto the Bliar hook.

 

Angel.

I like your comment about thanking a soldier, Angel, How about one for an old sailor too.

[buck 11]

It isn't the method that's the problem. It's the numpties who get to vote.

 

The reason you have "the antics of Romney, Gingrich and Santorum" is because all the normal, sensible-acting people who threw their hat in the ring, didn't get any votes.

They didn't get any votes because they didn't have any money, or they weren't pretty enough. Abe Lincoln wouldn't get any votes today.

[Phanerothyme 12]

I just saw fit to change this odious signature:

 

If you can read this then thank a teacher. If you can read this in English then thank an English Teacher. If you are reading this weeping over the grave of a dead child killed in an airstrike or helicopter attack, thank a soldier.

 

Bit OT, but it seemed appropriate for balance.