Majority of people are on some sort of benefit.

[Mister M 1,625]

Ho Hum, another week, another thread bitching about benefit claimants!

 

People will ALWAYS claim what they are entitled to, and if the Daily Fail don't like it they can lump it!

 

Unfortunately Rich people don't always claim what they're entitled to, that's why there's a lot of needless misery. I used to have the precise figures but it is known that much more money goes unclaimed each year by those that are entitled, than is defrauded by those that aren't entitled.

Not that you'd know it from reading the Daily Stirrer....

[LeMaquis 10]

http://www.ifs.org.uk/bns/bn13.pdf

 

Table 2.1 on page 5 breaks down these benefits.

 

I'm glad you posted this, and I never thought I'd say that about one of your posts. I'm glad because a few months ago someone put a rather rabid post on here about drug-testing benefits claimants. I'd like to see the state drug test 30 million people regularly.

[INTERVIEWER 10]

And do you imagine that all employers can afford to pay people more than the market rate?

 

Any employer that can't afford to pay a decent living wage to its employee's, rather than rely on the state to top up its workers wages, shouldn't be in business.

 

Simple as that.

[INTERVIEWER 10]

England is a First World economy. Any employer that can 'only afford' to pay Second or Third World wages should not be operating.

 

Let them take their business to Nigeria, Pakistan or Afghanistan. We don't want them. we don't need them.

[Number Six 10]

Any employer that can't afford to pay a decent living wage to its employee's, rather than rely on the state to top up its workers wages, shouldn't be in business.

 

Simple as that.

 

Have you heard the following phrases:

 

international market

 

 

inflation?

[chem1st 10]

I'm glad you posted this, and I never thought I'd say that about one of your posts. I'm glad because a few months ago someone put a rather rabid post on here about drug-testing benefits claimants. I'd like to see the state drug test 30 million people regularly.

 

http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=862666&highlight=drug+testing+benefit+claimants

 

This thread by any chance?

 

I made a few responses on it, after having seen quite a few people post the same piece of propaganda on facebook;

 

http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8108317&postcount=29

 

They did actually begin drug testing claimants in Florida, and the testing has been rolled across other states.

 

There is a program on later tonight looking at the plight of many people in Florida and in wider America whom now live in tent cities, as people did back in the great depression.

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/panorama/hi/front_page/newsid_9694000/9694094.stm

 

According to census data, 47 million Americans now live below the poverty line - the most in half a century - fuelled by several years of high unemployment.

One of the largest tented camps is in Florida and is now home to around 300 people. Others have sprung up in New Jersey and Portland.

 

Can I ask why you don't tend to like my posts?

 

(I'd presume it is my obsession with housing?)

 

But bare in mind all this **** is interlinked, and means testing, drug testing, sterilization and the relentless attacks upon the poor, they all result primarily from the same state enforced privileges of a small elite.

[coffindodger 10]

I can't convince myself that the state pension is a benefit where people who have worked all their lives are concerned. For me who has paid in hundreds of thousands of pounds in tax and NHI over the years, without taking anything back, it's bloody pay back time.

[chem1st 10]

I can't convince myself that the state pension is a benefit where people who have worked all their lives are concerned. For me who has paid in hundreds of thousands of pounds in tax and NHI over the years, without taking anything back, it's bloody pay back time.

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011/mar/15/babyboomers-welfare-politics-tax

 

One government minister who understands the trend is David Willetts. In his book on the subject, he reckons that the average boomer will get 118% more in benefits and services over the course of their lives than they have paid in taxes.

 

We have a massive pension crisis. The problems are only just beginning!

 

A young person born today will be expected to pay £68k into the state (via pension & healthcare)

A young person born in the next decade will be expected to contribute £160k to the state.

Meanwhile, many baby boomers will have received £220k from the state.

 

http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=831171

[biotechpete 10]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011/mar/15/babyboomers-welfare-politics-tax

 

 

 

We have a massive pension crisis. The problems are only just beginning!

 

 

 

http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=831171

 

I'm with you all the way on this one. The retirement age need to increase quickly to 70+ to make these baby boomers pay for their own retirments instead of those who've had to be mortgaged up to eyeballs with debt just to get a house and an education.

[coffindodger 10]

I'm with you all the way on this one. The retirement age need to increase quickly to 70+ to make these baby boomers pay for their own retirments instead of those who've had to be mortgaged up to eyeballs with debt just to get a house and an education.

 

I feel even better about drawing my state pension this year after reading that rubbish. The wife and I worked for 48 years, didn't have the university experience or gap year, never claimed any form of benefit and when we turn up our toes will leave enough for our son to retire early, what more do you want from us?

 

When we started paying off our £11,000 mortgage, we were on a joint salary of around £6,000, which is equivalent to a couple earning a joint salary of £40,000 paying off a mortgage of £73,200, and we had to put down a deposit of £3,500, which would be circa £20K these days.

 

The cost of your education appears to have been wasted.

[chem1st 10]

I feel even better about drawing my state pension this year after reading that rubbish. The wife and I worked for 48 years, didn't have the university experience or gap year, never claimed any form of benefit and when we turn up our toes will leave enough for our son to retire early, what more do you want from us?

 

When we started paying off our £11,000 mortgage, we were on a joint salary of around £6,000, which is equivalent to a couple earning a joint salary of £40,000 paying off a mortgage of £73,200, and we had to put down a deposit of £3,500, which would be circa £20K these days.

 

The cost of your education appears to have been wasted.

 

LR I will give you 3/10 for that one.

 

Short and sharp will yield you more.

[Muldoon 10]

LR I will give you 3/10 for that one.

 

Short and sharp will yield you more.

 

9/10 for being a sycophantic pedant