nubile   10 #13 Posted January 22, 2012 That may have to happen, but it would be better if the old stone were recovered. There are literally thousands of items of antiquity in the Peak District. Some are well known, most are not, except by those who appreciate the past. They are being carefully surveyed and monitored, but that takes a lot of time. More are being found every year. Some are better recorded than others.  Man has existed in the Peak District for well over 3,000 years; just how long we don't really know. Future generations may be better able to assess how they all fit together to teach us more about the past.  At least one very old and historically important stone has had to be replaced by an excellent fibreglass replica to prevent damage. The fibreglass has already been slightly chipped. Unfortunately such actions can't be arranged for them all.  Clearly the cross can't be left without a capstone for long. Hopefully the person/s concerned have merely taken it for the challenge, will get bored, and leave it where it can be recovered. Otherwise, yes, a new one will have to be made.  To prevent erosion you mean, at GE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
1978   14 #14 Posted January 23, 2012 Walked up today and pics of the stone without capstone are at; and  The site is over a mile from a tarred road, along a muddy and waterlogged bridleway. There are multiple tyre tracks from what look like trail bikes and possibly farm vehicles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Forumosaurus   10 #15 Posted January 24, 2012 To be fair, it has been windy... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
AJ sheffield   11 #16 Posted January 24, 2012 To be fair, it has been windy...  :hihi: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
V.Rossi   10 #17 Posted January 24, 2012 Walked up today and pics of the stone without capstone are at; and  The site is over a mile from a tarred road, along a muddy and waterlogged bridleway. There are multiple tyre tracks from what look like trail bikes and possibly farm vehicles.  Jesus, must have been heavy, you can clearly see where it was dropped into the ground. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
1978 Â Â 14 #18 Posted January 30, 2012 Story picked up by BBC News, possibly broadcast last night? Â Linked to main UK and England internet headline pages, and story at; http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-16782092 Â Also run in The Star on Friday; http://www.thestar.co.uk/community/appeal_over_missing_historic_peak_district_stone_1_4185481 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Yog Sothoth   10 #19 Posted January 30, 2012 Why not commission a new one, all you need is a piece of stone, hammer and chisel. How much did it weigh?  Not quite the same is it? If someone made an exact copy of Stonehenge, it wouldn't be Stonehenge, would it? A copy is a copy. The wonderful thing about ancient monuments is the history, the provenance, the life that's in it, not the fact it's a piece of stone of a particular shape. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
drinkingman   10 #20 Posted January 30, 2012 This really disgusts and saddens me. I hope someone sees it that knows what it is, though it's unlikely if its in a back garden somewhere. How can some selfish !£*&%!! think it's OK to deprive many thousands of people the pleasure of coming upon items like this whilst exploring the Peak District. It will be a real shame if the capstone has to be replaced with a copy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
chem1st   10 #21 Posted January 30, 2012 Not quite the same is it? If someone made an exact copy of Stonehenge, it wouldn't be Stonehenge, would it? A copy is a copy. The wonderful thing about ancient monuments is the history, the provenance, the life that's in it, not the fact it's a piece of stone of a particular shape.  The stone was there to serve a purpose (give directions), it looked a bit old and tatty.  Much like an old pair of jeans, and people gladly buy them with the artificial worn look.  It still has the history, just needs the cap replacing. Everything requires maintenance over time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
treeko1 Â Â 10 #22 Posted January 30, 2012 Does this sum all things philistine about 2012 or what?Publicity on Bbc websitectoday Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Yog Sothoth   10 #23 Posted January 31, 2012 The stone was there to serve a purpose (give directions), it looked a bit old and tatty. Much like an old pair of jeans, and people gladly buy them with the artificial worn look.  It still has the history, just needs the cap replacing. Everything requires maintenance over time.  It was nearly 300 years old. You miss the point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
1978 Â Â 14 #24 Posted January 31, 2012 chem1st is either a devils advocate or an agent provocateur:-) Â Yes, the stone was almost 300 years old. It can (and probably will) be replaced. The new capstone will take a few decades to weather, but in 20 years time folks probably won't notice the difference. Â In fact it's believed the present Hope Cross may have replaced an older cross on the same site, so it's probably not the 'original.' Â In the Peak District there are many thousand archaeological and historical features. Many are yet to be fully recorded and researched. This one is very well known and remains a prominent goal for walkers, cyclists and historians alike. Â Of course if folks sharing chem1st's views would like to pay to replace such items, maybe they should come forward. I assume he/she wouldn't like treasured items stolen from his property? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...