chem1st   10 #37 Posted December 16, 2011 Arrrrrrrrrrrrr much!  Filthy/Last should be boycotted.  Walk if you have to! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
woodyracer   10 #38 Posted December 17, 2011 I think First should not be putting the fares up but it makes me laugh how people are commenting about how good stagecoach drivers are, most of my ex colleagues work for them now through mainly sacked from first, So do they suddenly bacome nicer working for stagecoach! As for stagecoach drivers stopping between stops, the driver is putting his job at risk, his licence and a big fine, It all actually depends what frame of mind the driver is in, we all have good and bad days first and stagecoach but don't blame the driver for a fare increase Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
mrth   10 #39 Posted December 17, 2011 FirstYear South Yorkshire - £747  I'll sell you my car for that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
donuticus   10 #40 Posted December 17, 2011 FirstYear South Yorkshire - £747 I'll sell you my car for that  I'll bet you couldn't insure it, tax it and park it for £747 though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Annie Bynnol   612 #41 Posted December 17, 2011 SYPTA information for South Yorkshire for the 12 months to April 2011: Bus passengers have gone down by 1.9 million (-3.5%) Tram passengers have gone up by 1.9 million (+14.3%) Train passengers have gone up by 5.3 million (+52.3%) AA says: Car journeys down by 20% in Britain  How should this data affect our thinking? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Andy C   86 #42 Posted December 22, 2011 (edited) FirstYear South Yorkshire - £747 I'll sell you my car for that  Just to compare....  Stagecoach Sheffield 52 week Megarider Sheffield Bus £475 Sheffield Tram £495 Sheffield Bus & Tram £540 Sheffield & Chesterfield Bus & Tram £620 Gold (all services in Yorks/Derbys/Notts) £770  Travel South Yorkshire/Stagecoach Supertram Park & Ride at Nunnery Square, Middlewood and Halfway ticket includes parking and unlimited tram travel Quarterly ticket £150.80 (multiplied by 4 this comes to £603.20 per year)  The First Year South Yorkshire is cheaper than an annual season ticket for the train between Sheffield and Doncaster which is priced at £908 though. Edited December 22, 2011 by Andy C Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
222Meridian   10 #43 Posted December 22, 2011 (edited) I reckon bus fare increase across the country is more or less related to the permitted average train fare rise formula of RPI+1% that's introduced by the Labour Government and is still in force.  For the coming new year 5.9% is the figure generated from the RPI+1% formula.  Bus operators seem to be trying to increase fare at the rate that's a little bit smaller than train's, but is at least more than inflation.  I can think of these 2 eg. First Sheffield Day ticket 01/2009--01/2012 £4.00->£4.60 (5% per year in average)  National Express West Midlands (B'ham's main operator) 01/2009--01/2012 £3.30->£3.60 (3% per year in average)  The RPI+1% formula from the government clearly gives a message that train fares in this country have to be increasing faster than inflation. For other sorts of public transport if their fare rise is unregulated, are perhaps likely to follow the rate used by trains. Edited December 22, 2011 by 222Meridian Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mr Bates   10 #44 Posted December 22, 2011 Just to compare.... Stagecoach Sheffield 52 week Megarider Sheffield Bus £475 Sheffield Tram £495 Sheffield Bus & Tram £540 Sheffield & Chesterfield Bus & Tram £620 Gold (all services in Yorks/Derbys/Notts) £770 Travel South Yorkshire/Stagecoach Supertram Park & Ride at Nunnery Square, Middlewood and Halfway ticket includes parking and unlimited tram travel Quarterly ticket £150.80 (multiplied by 4 this comes to £603.20 per year)  The First Year South Yorkshire is cheaper than an annual season ticket for the train between Sheffield and Doncaster which is priced at £908 though.  Does that Gold ticket include Stagecoach train services Andy?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
222Meridian   10 #45 Posted December 22, 2011 Does that Gold ticket include Stagecoach train services Andy??  No definitely not!  All bus+train through tickets or passes are issued on behalf of the public sector (eg SYPTE) rather than any private operators! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mecky   10 #46 Posted December 22, 2011 Why not do away with all the free bus passes (except for OAPS) and then simply charge a flat rate of 80p to use the bus. Everyone then pays  Free bus passes only came back in the other year. Fares weren't reduced before that and I don't expect them to be again. People are not subsidising free travel for the elderly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
biotechpete   10 #47 Posted December 22, 2011 Just proves a point why Stagecoach is taking business from under First's noses!  Example of how cheap Stagecoach is compared to First:  Woodseats - City  First (current price) £1.95 Stagecoach (current price) - £1.50  From 2/01/12  First £2.10 Stagecoach £1.50  60p difference each way!   Presumably though Stagecoach will stick 10p/20p around March time.....  For now! I remember watching a programme about Stagecoach on TV a few years ago. Their tactic in new areas is to undercut local companies until they go out of business and then to hike fairs to unbelievable levels once the competition has been crushed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
MrMoran   10 #48 Posted December 22, 2011 Would Stagecoach ever do a thing like that? Obviously not with them being perfect!  :hihi::hihi: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...