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Do some of you really think it would have been better if we'd continued with the union dominance of British industry that we'd had in the 70s? Our car industry was destroyed by the unions, in no small measure they brought about the demise of the mining industry (not steel which actually continued to have rising outputs long after Thatcher's government).

 

Various PMs Conservative and Labour had failed to control the unions. For those who remember the 70s, we had the 3 day week, power cuts, uncollected rubbish on the streets, unburied bodies, days when even the tabloids weren't printed, because the unions were strangling the country through their own mixture of financial greed and utterly misguided militant left wing policies. Any talk of efficiencies or even labour saving technology would lead to walk-outs, because some people hadn’t learned from the Luddites, and some still haven’t to this day.

 

Even many in the Labour party (the sensible ones anyway) acknowledged that without union reform Britain was doomed, and the economic prosperity we’ve had for more than two decades up to current recession would not have happened were it not for Thatcher’s actions in stamping down the unions. People upset about the mining industry now should consider how we’d be if we had none of our industries left functioning, as would have been the case if the unions had not been controlled.

 

She put property ownership within reach of people who could not have dreamed before of the financial security of being home owners.

She supported Reagan in ending the Cold War, perhaps not a positive achievement to many of the communists and hard line socialists who frequent this forum and had greater sympathies for the Soviet system, but a great contribution to world history all the same.

She also fought hard to win us much better financial deals with the EU than they wanted to give us, saving many billions over the coming years.

 

She is indeed reviled by the people of some northern cities who selfishly refuse to look at the greater needs of the country over the needs of their industry, but it’s good to know that she’s still adored in the rest of England and in most towns people doff their cap to her car when she passes. It’s also common for her to receive standing ovations of clapping when she leaves a restaurant or theatre to this day by the adoring public. I like to reflect on the support and public adoration she continues to receive in the South, because most people have the sense to appreciate her tenure as PM and remind her of that. Some bitter, hateful, small-minded northerners aside, that is.

 

I read this somewhere, can’t remember where:

[i
]“In the first half of the 20th century, we had Winston Churchill and Lloyd George. In the second half of the century, there was Margaret Thatcher alone
”.
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Daily Mail???:hihi::loopy:

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Do you really think that people are going to waste their time reading all that rubbish?:roll:

 

 

Well said Phil!;)

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I must hand it to you. You indeed are an idiot.:D
You take the experience of being labelled an idiot well within your stride. It is evident that you are accustomed to it.:)
Why do you think that?:huh:
Don't caravans have toughened glass?:huh::roll:
"Funny old world".................:)
Do you really think that people are going to waste their time reading all that rubbish?:roll:
Do you really have nothing better to add to this thread than snide one-liners and insults?

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Daily Mail???:hihi::loopy:
That's possibly, but more likely the Telegraph. A predictable response though, I'll give you that much.

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Do you really have nothing better to add to this thread than snide one-liners and insults?

 

I am well educated and thus could extend my insults to two lines, but I thought that it may be a little beyond your comprehension.:)

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Fantastic thread.

I do have to say, though, I was beginning to lose the will to live in parts. I really hope Thatcher feels that way. When she goes I'll be one of the millions cheering.

What was to be despised about Thatcher was that she made the policy of 'the end justifies the means' politically acceptable. I'll give two examples:

 

The clear policy of smashing the miners union. This was meticulously planned and executed and relied on the knowledge that Arthur Scargill would march the miners into oblivion like lemmings over a cliff. This was not in the interests of business or economics, it was for ideological reasons. Whole communities were destroyed and some still haven't recovered. Don't for a minute believe that Thatcher didn't know this would happen.

 

The blind ideological use of monetarism to run the economy. Controlling inflation with the almost solitary use of interest rates put hundreds of thousands more people out of work than was necessary.

 

That's why I hate Thatcher and her legacy. The present government appear to be treading the same dangerous path. This time, though, the unions might just bite back.

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Why don’t you like the answer? Does it give you doubts about the motives of the NUM and how little support they actually had?

 

Well I have to disagree. My dad hated Scargill and would have agreed with some of your comments about some getting away with doing as little as possible but he was right behind the 84 miners strike as were most of his mates.They saw it as the tories trying to grind down the working man.

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Well I have to disagree. My dad hated Scargill and would have agreed with some of your comments about some getting away with doing as little as possible but he was right behind the 84 miners strike as were most of his mates.They saw it as the tories trying to grind down the working man.

 

Tell your dad from me that he was absolutely right.;)

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There was no coal left to sustain the industry!!.........Look at how were are now with petrol, Bp making 400billion , and us barely able to afford to drive. Sorry off topic.......

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There was no coal left to sustain the industry!!.........Look at how were are now with petrol, Bp making 400billion , and us barely able to afford to drive. Sorry off topic.......

 

And one flew over the cuckoos nest:loopy:

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Do some of you really think it would have been better if we'd continued with the union dominance of British industry that we'd had in the 70s? Our car industry was destroyed by the unions, in no small measure they brought about the demise of the mining industry (not steel which actually continued to have rising outputs long after Thatcher's government).

 

Various PMs Conservative and Labour had failed to control the unions. For those who remember the 70s, we had the 3 day week, power cuts, uncollected rubbish on the streets, unburied bodies, days when even the tabloids weren't printed, because the unions were strangling the country through their own mixture of financial greed and utterly misguided militant left wing policies. Any talk of efficiencies or even labour saving technology would lead to walk-outs, because some people hadn’t learned from the Luddites, and some still haven’t to this day.

 

Even many in the Labour party (the sensible ones anyway) acknowledged that without union reform Britain was doomed, and the economic prosperity we’ve had for more than two decades up to current recession would not have happened were it not for Thatcher’s actions in stamping down the unions. People upset about the mining industry now should consider how we’d be if we had none of our industries left functioning, as would have been the case if the unions had not been controlled.

 

She put property ownership within reach of people who could not have dreamed before of the financial security of being home owners.

She supported Reagan in ending the Cold War, perhaps not a positive achievement to many of the communists and hard line socialists who frequent this forum and had greater sympathies for the Soviet system, but a great contribution to world history all the same.

She also fought hard to win us much better financial deals with the EU than they wanted to give us, saving many billions over the coming years.

 

She is indeed reviled by the people of some northern cities who selfishly refuse to look at the greater needs of the country over the needs of their industry, but it’s good to know that she’s still adored in the rest of England and in most towns people doff their cap to her car when she passes. It’s also common for her to receive standing ovations of clapping when she leaves a restaurant or theatre to this day by the adoring public. I like to reflect on the support and public adoration she continues to receive in the South, because most people have the sense to appreciate her tenure as PM and remind her of that. Some bitter, hateful, small-minded northerners aside, that is.

 

I read this somewhere, can’t remember where:

“In the first half of the 20th century, we had Winston Churchill and Lloyd George. In the second half of the century, there was Margaret Thatcher alone”.

 

How can you adore someone who actively supported a killer and torturer

 

http://www.livingstandards.org/features/pay/ .this demonstrates how her policies enhanced the lives of the poorest people (not).Note how the top 1% started to race up the income ladder.

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What was to be despised about Thatcher was that she made the policy of 'the end justifies the means' politically acceptable.

The clear policy of smashing the miners union. This was meticulously planned and executed and relied on the knowledge that Arthur Scargill would march the miners into oblivion like lemmings over a cliff. This was not in the interests of business or economics, it was for ideological reasons. Whole communities were destroyed and some still haven't recovered. Don't for a minute believe that Thatcher didn't know this would happen.

 

(snip)

 

The nail is hit squarely on the head, there!

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