Were can I buy White Poppies?

[jake]

 

tomorrow we remember those who went all the way to their graves for peace.

 

if only that was the case - have a read of some British history and see what most soldiers died fighting "for". Apart from the obvious example of WW2 - sadly it was rarely peace they were sent to fight for.

[The Joker]

if only that was the case - have a read of some British history and see what most soldiers died fighting "for". Apart from the obvious example of WW2 - sadly it was rarely peace they were sent to fight for.

 

Aah yes, the Opium Wars... some might say that's why we're in Afghanistan today

[Eater Sundae]

Serious question ...... can someone please tell me who benefits from the proceeds from sales of these White poppies ?

 

It's covered in the faq section of the ppu website. It goes to pay the wages of their staff and to promote their views. They say that their income is less than the salary paid to the boss of the British Legion.

 

It does not appear to distribute money to anyone.

 

As I see it from the website, it is a political movement, paid for by the sale of white poppies.

 

Edit: They actually say that their turnover is similar to the salary of the chief exec of the British Legion, which they put at £95 000+

[muckymurphy]

if only that was the case - have a read of some British history and see what most soldiers died fighting "for". Apart from the obvious example of WW2 - sadly it was rarely peace they were sent to fight for.

 

it was said that the price of peace is eternal vigilance as with the cold war and now watching iran with its nukes. sometimes soldiers are sent to fight to preserve the lives of others, such as the SAS attack on the west side boys in columbia which saved the lives of captured british soldiers who had been there as peacekeepers. or the heroism of a handful of SAS who fought off hundreds of communist insurgents in oman who threatened to overthrow the sultan. or the defeat of the rebels at jebel akdar.... i could go on.

 

our problem is that we often fight wars in other countries only to see previously kept apart factions start fighting each other again as in iraq....or the al qaida flag being raised as in libya.

unless we keep sticking our nose in, the likelyhood of nuclear exchanges between iran & israel, pakistan & india, north & south korea become more likely in the very near future leading to another global conflict which i fear will leave no-one to wear any poppy.

sometimes its hard to see what we are fighting for. these days all we can do is give them a bloody nose and get the hell out of there and leave them to fight amongst themselves.

as for opium wars. the fight against drugs begins on our own doorstep by stopping our addicts. if we could cure or kill them all, the global drugs trade would collapse. governments should perhaps buy up all the available drugs and give them away free to addicts. this would slash 80% of the crime that is associated with drugs. our economy would then go through the roof because the majority of hard working people would not be working to replace what the druggies have nicked.

it's not what or why you are fighting, it's how you deal with the aftermath and the losers.

[jake]

as for opium wars.

 

I'm sure you are aware that the original opium wars in the 19th Century were as a result of the British pushing very large quantities of opium to the Chinese - with the Chinese government, understandably not being too impressed, and so led to the wars. Of such things was our Empire built on...

 

Though I agree with you about treating addicts.. if they didnt have to buy the stuff - they wouldnt be robbing my house and flogging what they've knicked for next to nothing to feed a habbit... er.. we seem to have gone way off topic...

 

But vaguely back on topic - Britain doesnt fight wars to be "good" - it fights wars, like all countries do, to protect or expand its interests - c'est la vie...

[cazziecrisp]

In 1926, a few years after the introduction of the red poppy in the UK, the idea of pacifists making their own poppies was put forward by a member of the No More War Movement (and that the black centre of the British Legion's red poppies should be imprinted with "No More War"). Their intention was to remember casualties of all wars, with the added meaning of a hope for the end of all wars; the red poppy, they felt, signified only the British military dead. The Peace Pledge Union (PPU) took part in its distribution from 1934, and white poppy wreaths were laid from 1937 as a pledge to peace that war must not happen again. Anti-war organisations such as the Anglican Pacifist Fellowship now support the White Poppy Movement.

 

Those who promote the wearing of white poppies argue that the red poppy also conveys a specific political standpoint, and point to the divisive nature of the red poppy in Northern Ireland, where it is worn mainly by the Unionist community. They choose the white poppy over the red often because they wish to disassociate themselves from the militaristic aspects of Remembrance Day, rather than the commemoration itself.

 

Now we've cleared that up, can anyone answer the original question? I haven't seen anyone selling them for ages and the only ones I can find are online. My partner is a Quaker so I know that the Sheffield Meeting House aren't selling them.

However, I've just seen that there is a Peace Fair in the Town Hall tomorrow. You might have some luck there.

 

Actually the Quaker Meeting House is selling white poppies, I know this because I work there

[dhs1]

 

tomorrow we remember those who went all the way to their graves for peace.

 

Today I remember my grandfather who died in the "War to end all wars" which clearly it didn't as two of his sons and a son in law died as a result of war. They may have fought for peace but fighting hasn't achieved it.

[Grandad.Malky]

tomorrow we remember those who went all the way to their graves for peace.

 

I am with you ........... if people want to have a white poppy day let them organise one but don’t try hijacking the 11th.

[wornout53]

Whilst I respect your views would it be so awful for you to wear a red poppy just for today to honour those whose sacrifice ensured you have the freedom to hold those views?

[Grandad.Malky]

Whilst I respect your views would it be so awful for you to wear a red poppy just for today to honour those whose sacrifice ensured you have the freedom to hold those views?

 

Well said and then if / when there is a white poppy day people can respect that as well if they wish.