blades89 Â Â 10 #1 Posted November 2, 2011 We are seeing the average Greek rejecting the austerity measures, as for them it is absolutely certain to mean a reduction in living standards, however for many they will pay the ultimate price and are likely to lose their homes, plus everything they have worked for in life. Â The political class (plus many average brits) say we are all in this together and as the Greeks have been living beyond their means, they should suffer from whatever fallout comes from austerity. Â Is that fair for the average Greek, who went about his everyday life, earning a living, when the people who were the the root cause of the problems (the political class) seem to be getting away scot free. These people (the political class) believe that the average Greek should take the pain squarely on the chin, whilst they continue their cosy life, while their fellow countryman have his/her life destroyed. Â If you were a Greek, or come the time when we face austerity, will you welcome these packages of massive cuts? Â Or will it be a case of - "yes, i fully support the austerity measures, provided my own family are not threatened by the consequences) Â or will you... Â Happily lose your home leaving your family destitute? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
MrSmith   10 #2 Posted November 2, 2011 We are seeing the average Greek rejecting the austerity measures, as for them it is absolutely certain to mean a reduction in living standards, however for many they will pay the ultimate price and are likely to lose their homes, plus everything they have worked for in life. The political class (plus many average brits) say we are all in this together and as the Greeks have been living beyond their means, they should suffer from whatever fallout comes from austerity.  Is that fair for the average Greek, who went about his everyday life, earning a living, when the people who were the the root cause of the problems (the political class) seem to be getting away scot free. These people (the political class) believe that the average Greek should take the pain squarely on the chin, whilst they continue their cosy life, while their fellow countryman have his/her life destroyed.  If you were a Greek, or come the time when we face austerity, will you welcome these packages of massive cuts? Or will it be a case of - "yes, i fully support the austerity measures, provided my own family are not threatened by the consequences)  or will you...  Happily lose your home leaving your family destitute?  I would tolerate them and change my life accordingly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
blades89 Â Â 10 #3 Posted November 2, 2011 I would tolerate them and change my life accordingly. Â Â Â Â Even if you lost your home? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
MrSmith   10 #4 Posted November 2, 2011 Even if you lost your home?  Why would I lose my home? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Agent Orange   11 #5 Posted November 2, 2011 We are seeing the average Greek rejecting the austerity measures, as for them it is absolutely certain to mean a reduction in living standards, however for many they will pay the ultimate price and are likely to lose their homes, plus everything they have worked for in life. The political class (plus many average brits) say we are all in this together and as the Greeks have been living beyond their means, they should suffer from whatever fallout comes from austerity.  Is that fair for the average Greek, who went about his everyday life, earning a living, when the people who were the the root cause of the problems (the political class) seem to be getting away scot free. These people (the political class) believe that the average Greek should take the pain squarely on the chin, whilst they continue their cosy life, while their fellow countryman have his/her life destroyed.  If you were a Greek, or come the time when we face austerity, will you welcome these packages of massive cuts?  Or will it be a case of - "yes, i fully support the austerity measures, provided my own family are not threatened by the consequences)  or will you...  Happily lose your home leaving your family destitute?  Whichever way you look at it, they are going to lose out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Keith Rich   10 #6 Posted November 2, 2011 Why would I lose my home?  Ah the poor innocent lamb....bless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
blades89   10 #7 Posted November 2, 2011 Why would I lose my home?    Why would you lose your home?  Well if your outgoings (mortgage, bills etc..) come to say £1400 which these days is not far out, and you had a job that paid £1600 a month after tax.  If because of the austerity, you had to take a pay cut to £800 a month, or you lost your job and benefits were £200 a month (benefit paymenst could be cut), yet you had to find £1400 a month, then you would quicky go into debt.  You would then lose your home Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
MrSmith   10 #8 Posted November 2, 2011 Why would you lose your home? Well if your outgoings (mortgage, bills etc..) come to say £1400 which these days is not far out, and you had a job that paid £1600 a month after tax.  If because of the austerity, you had to take a pay cut to £800 a month, or you lost your job and benefits were £200 a month (benefit paymenst could be cut), yet you had to find £1400 a month, then you would quicky go into debt.  You would then lose your home  I would change my life and continue to live within my means, if I have less money coming in I would spend less money. Isn’t that obvious. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Murphy Jnr   10 #9 Posted November 2, 2011 Austerity begins at home (or is that charity).  It's surprising what you can do without when you have to. We've had to make some serious changes in our lifestyle and for now just about get by. If we were asked to cut back further we'd be screwed.  I don't know.  If the way forward could be shown to be the right way we would do what was needed but, who to believe?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Hemibr   10 #10 Posted November 2, 2011 The dispossessed are never a happy breed and no i would fight it tooth and nail as the Greek referendum is about to reveal hence the eurodictators of wealth distribution are crapping it.  I would agree to an equivalent lifestylye of those imposing the austerity whether that be them forsaking their wealth to achieve parity with me or me being elevated to their status or even applying a pecking order where the rich are the first to implement austerity followed by the poor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
L00b   441 #11 Posted November 2, 2011 If you were a Greek, or come the time when we face austerity, will you welcome these packages of massive cuts?I guess it would depend on whether I was a (relatively) young worker paying my way into the system, or a retiree on full pay aged 51  Now, which sort outnumbers the other in Greece? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Grandad.Malky   11 #12 Posted November 2, 2011 I think the Greeks are perfectly entitled to retire at 55 and then enjoy lazy afternoons drinking espresso (or something stronger) in the sun while we work until we drop to subsidise them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...