Keith Rich 10 #1 Posted November 1, 2011 Supporters of the Nasty Party have always put nutty statements on this forum, but in recent weeks the problem seems to be getting worse. Despite the fact that the Tories haven’t won a single seat in Sheffield in living memory and support for the Tories in Sheffield is as rare as an intelligent thought in Cameron’s head this forum is flooded with extreme right wing fanatics who see fit to give us the benefit of their words of wisdom every minute of the day. I have put together five of the nuttier statements by the right wing intelligentsia that I have seen in recent weeks: ‘The reason the mines closed down was because the miners went on strike.’ ‘When there is a dispute between the Unions and Management I never look at the issues behind the dispute because it is always the fault of the Unions. If anyone goes on strike it is equivalent to giving in their notice.’ ‘Labour took thousands off unemployment benefit and put them on Incapacity benefit.’ (Presumably with the support of Doctors who examine people to see if they qualify for IB) ‘Labour encourage a benefits culture.’ (Despite the fact that unemployment is always higher under the Nasty Party) ‘Gordon Brown is a Marxist.’ Feel free to add your own. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Conrod 10 #2 Posted November 1, 2011 (edited) Oh dear Keith, you do struggle. Long term strikes don't do a lot to help the profitability or security of an industry - you may not believe this, but it's true. Not everybody thinks union militancy is a good thing - also true. The number of people on long term incapacity shot up under Labour. Even Tony Blair said that it was a problem and that a significant proportion were fit for work. Labour does encourage a benefits culture, if you can't see that you need to smoke less wacky baccy. Gordon Brown was an active Marxist in his youth (fact old chap ) and retained sympathies to that mindset for many years. Edited November 1, 2011 by Conrod Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mister M 1,606 #3 Posted November 1, 2011 But if you're a swivel eyed wingnut not only does Gordon Brown seem like a Marxist, but I've read on here that Hitler was a left winger too, seriously!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
andyofborg 11 #4 Posted November 1, 2011 Labour does encourage a benefits culture How????????????????????????????? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
epiphany 10 #5 Posted November 1, 2011 But if you're a swivel eyed wingnut not only does Gordon Brown seem like a Marxist, but I've read on here that Hitler was a left winger too, seriously!!! To be fair, if your view of the political spectrum means the further left you go, the more emphasis on a large, authoritarian state (which seems to be how people generally boil it down), there is an element of truth to that claim. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
TheGuy 10 #6 Posted November 1, 2011 Labour does encourage a benefits culture, if you can't see that you need to smoke less wacky baccy. Do so many people live a life on benefits because benefits are too generous or because wages are too low? that is the question. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
TheGuy 10 #7 Posted November 1, 2011 But if you're a swivel eyed wingnut not only does Gordon Brown seem like a Marxist, but I've read on here that Hitler was a left winger too, seriously!!! To be fair, if your view of the political spectrum means the further left you go, the more emphasis on a large, authoritarian state (which seems to be how people generally boil it down), there is an element of truth to that claim. Gordon Brown is a Marxist at heart. Just because he didn't fully implement Marxist theory to-the-letter in government, people scoff at the suggestion he's a Marxist. He was as Marxist as he could get away with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mecky 10 #8 Posted November 1, 2011 Oh dear Keith, you do struggle. Long term strikes don't do a lot to help the profitability or security of an industry - you may not believe this, but it's true. Not everybody thinks union militancy is a good thing - also true. The number of people on long term incapacity shot up under Labour. Even Tony Blair said that it was a problem and that a significant proportion were fit for work. Labour does encourage a benefits culture, if you can't see that you need to smoke less wacky baccy. Gordon Brown was an active Marxist in his youth (fact old chap ) and retained sympathies to that mindset for many years. Says you biting, you should know better. If you had a brain you'd be dangerous Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mister M 1,606 #9 Posted November 1, 2011 Gordon Brown is a Marxist at heart. Just because he didn't fully implement Marxist theory to-the-letter in government, people scoff at the suggestion he's a Marxist. He was as Marxist as he could get away with. Give us some examples. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
andyofborg 11 #10 Posted November 1, 2011 Gordon Brown is a Marxist at heart. Just because he didn't fully implement Marxist theory to-the-letter in government, people scoff at the suggestion he's a Marxist. He was as Marxist as he could get away with. what marxist things did he actually do? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
epiphany 10 #11 Posted November 1, 2011 Gordon Brown is a Marxist at heart. Just because he didn't fully implement Marxist theory to-the-letter in government, people scoff at the suggestion he's a Marxist. He was as Marxist as he could get away with. Well I doubt Marx would agree with much of what he's done or stands for, but then Marxism is a reactionary ideology that varies depending on the ideologue interpreting Marx's theory. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
TheGuy 10 #12 Posted November 1, 2011 Give us some examples. what marxist things did he actually do? Well I dont know if this is Marxism in action or not but It can be said that after 13 years of Labour, Britain was/is a vast, authoritarian state bureaucracy in which private enterprise wasn't really encouraged, and Government spending apparently counted for more than half of the entire economy while the majority of the adult population was dependent on the state for their income. (Im not a Tory just for the record) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...