Cyclone   10 #61 Posted October 30, 2011 I'm afraid you might cause a civil war if you try to ban coffee. I'll happily put you up against the wall for that idea myself! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
tinfoilhat   11 #62 Posted October 30, 2011 I like coffee. We all like coffee but in cups or mugs not crappy paper pint pots that cost 3 quid a go. Your views are taken on board though and we don't want a civil war ( not with all these guns we've now made for barter knocking about) so coffee is but it's coffee only. Not latte, capacino etc. And it's rationed but not by messers costa, Nero, starbucks et al. No, little chefs shall be the coffee guardians. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Harleyman   12 #63 Posted October 30, 2011 we could quite easily cope in this world without money, the whole concept of money is totally outdated we should all withdraw every single penny out of our banks or where ever people save it, then dump it all in truck loads at the very doors of our societies elit, then burn it all  money has caused more grief, wars, famine, poverty and corruption than anything and that is a fact, you can not really argue with that  the system and the people who support it have an automatic and somewhat inevitable built in failure about it, the system only ever succeeds when it makes up for something failing in the first place, it can never succeed on top of something good and it never will   You can forward your unwanted money to me. Wrap up well. It's going to be a cold winter living outdoors Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Cyclone   10 #64 Posted October 31, 2011 I like coffee. We all like coffee but in cups or mugs not crappy paper pint pots that cost 3 quid a go. Your views are taken on board though and we don't want a civil war ( not with all these guns we've now made for barter knocking about) so coffee is but it's coffee only. Not latte, capacino etc. And it's rationed but not by messers costa, Nero, starbucks et al. No, little chefs shall be the coffee guardians.  They serve filter coffee at Starbucks you know!  I know it's off topic, but this is part of the capitalism that the OP hates. If people didn't want to buy extra tall, super skinny, no fat, decaf, late's with an extra shot, then these places wouldn't exist. They can only exist if people want to use them to buy coffee. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
donkey   10 #65 Posted November 1, 2011 (edited) They serve filter coffee at Starbucks you know! I know it's off topic, but this is part of the capitalism that the OP hates. If people didn't want to buy extra tall, super skinny, no fat, decaf, late's with an extra shot, then these places wouldn't exist. They can only exist if people want to use them.  My Bold The same could be said of the suppliers of heroin. That is why it is an argument against the consumerist doctrine of 'the market', not for it. Edited November 1, 2011 by donkey Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
swarfendor437   14 #66 Posted November 1, 2011 You need to browse around more!  http://www.eutimes.net/2011/09/obama-ordered-to-denver-bunker-by-us-military/  http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=1070329053600562261&q  http://achernahr.easycgi.com/VList.asp?Series=1&Video=91  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkVnFtYeuBY&feature=channel_video_title  http://www.eutimes.net/2011/10/swiss-researchers-elite-controls-global-economy/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Keith Rich   10 #67 Posted November 1, 2011 Not just talking about the michael moore film, which highlighted the sickening and rotten way society is managed, along with peter josephs excellent series of zeitgeist films... The st pauls cathedral protests are not just in this country, people have had enough all over the world, and i quite frankly hope it gets worse, because lets face, capitalism is and always has been radical evil  when george bush said it was the best system ever devised, he was quite honestly brainwashed by his own self supporting system of corruption  i seriously hope that we have a world wide movement that strikes at the very heart of all corrupting governments as well as the banking elite   The plain truth is that the Love of Money is the Root of all Evil. Its just that people don't like to hear the truth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
tinfoilhat   11 #68 Posted November 1, 2011 Despite my apparent inaction I have found a template for the no government, no money thing.   Somalia. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Speed Demon   10 #69 Posted November 1, 2011 good quality coffee costs a fortune Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Hemibr   10 #70 Posted November 2, 2011 Despite my apparent inaction I have found a template for the no government, no money thing.   Somalia.  Introduce a maximum wage and a limit of capital savings and assets.  Once that limit (lets call it a greed factor) is reached then the excesses are taxed at 100 percent unless used to create further production or infrastructure necessitating employment for those who can never aspire to come close to the set limits of ownership.  Once you have enough wealth to live a life of ultimate oppolence for you and your kids and grandkids then i think you dont really need further wealth and should be made to use it creatively or have it taken away.  There would be no rich list as the top earners would be tied in a dead heat and the bank calculators would know how many noughts on a savings account would be enough.  Not just capitalism.........M and S capitalism Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
swarfendor437 Â Â 14 #71 Posted November 2, 2011 If anyone had bothered to look at the second videolink, that last post is just not going to happen (is it Mr Rotheschild?) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
L00b   441 #72 Posted November 2, 2011 No we can stick with money , it's more convenient.Agreed. So global currency will dollars.No need. Look where the latest 'semi-global'/'multi-national' currency attempt (€) is currently heading. But isn't that what got us into this mess - the whole money thing?No, speculation on the money thing got us into this mess. This time like the last (as corrently pointed out by donkey a while back). Help me out people.Simples. Probably far too simples. But hey... Maintain currencies, maintain the shares system, but prohibit (globally, and strictly): (i) share prices from being based on anything other than the value of a company's physical assets at any one time (buildings, physical stocks, etc. basically, anything you can hold or grab in your hand that belongs in whole or part to the company) (ii) speculation on anything other than physical assets already produced (no derivatives, futures, etc.) (iii) negative speculation (betting on a negative outcome...I'm having a brain fart about the exact terminology) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...