Can humanity sink lower than this?

[Jane123]

Maybe the powers that be should bring back public humiliation, perhaps some stocks set up near first point in Hillsborough

 

I agree wholeheartedly with this - stocks right in the middle of Morrisons car park might deter a few of these scumbags if they were made to feel humiliated and it would also be hugely entertaining for us honest shoppers.

[craigs]

How can you humiliate somebody with no morals though!

 

Chopped off fingers is the answer for theifs of this nature.

 

Incidently, my mother was shopping in Meadowhall recently when somebody tried to undo her handbag which was over her shoulder. My mother is deaf and therefore her other senses are pretty honed, she felt the bag movement on her shoulder just wasn't right and turned around and caught a women in the act - she then followed her around the shop with intention of raising alarm but she did a runner, empty handed thankfully! (my mum said there were actually 3 of them - two look outs and one person doing the thieving - 2 women and a man).

[Chun Li]

How can you humiliate somebody with no morals though!

 

Chopped off fingers is the answer for theifs of this nature.

 

Incidently, my mother was shopping in Meadowhall recently when somebody tried to undo her handbag which was over her shoulder. My mother is deaf and therefore her other senses are pretty honed, she felt the bag movement on her shoulder just wasn't right and turned around and caught a women in the act - she then followed her around the shop with intention of raising alarm but she did a runner, empty handed thankfully! (my mum said there were actually 3 of them - two look outs and one person doing the thieving - 2 women and a man).

 

I was going to say this myself but didnt want to sound like a hang em and burn em type. So im glad you said it instead:hihi:

And i agree 100%

[ANGELFIRE1]

Perhaps society should change its attitude towards offenders who prey on the weak and vulnerable?

 

The 3 purposes of imprisonment which are usually quoted are (in no particular order) deterrence, restitution and rehabilitation.

 

Deterrence doesn't seem to work.

 

Restitution doesn't usually help the victim. Yes, the criminal 'pays' - by having his or her freedom denied for a part of his or her her life. Is usually doesn't make good the loss (including shock and stress) to the victim and the cost of incarcerating somebody greatly exceeds any financial recovery which may be made.

 

Rehabilitation probably does work in some instances, but the re-offending rate is far too high.

 

There is a fourth purpose of incarceration - one the politicians don't seem to keen to talk about - warehousing. While somebody is inside, he/she is not preying on victims outside.

 

Perhaps some criminals - particularly those who prey on the weak and vulnerable - should face very long terms as 'warehoused' prisoners in prisons which don't bother with rehabilitation and which provide minimum amenities, but which are secure places for people who have shown that they present a grave threat to the weaker and vulnerable members of society?[/QUOTE]

 

 

Aye, we used to have these institutions a good few years ago, we called them Prisons - before the tree hugging plastic sandal veggie eaters got promoted into office.

 

Regards

 

Angel.

[ANGELFIRE1]

Whilst I don't agree with theft at all why did this story have to be sold for its negativity? The thread title could have been lovely person pays for old lady's groceries after her purse was swiped. That would have been far nicer but I guess it's better to suggest humanity is on its knees. People like yourself make the world appear far worse than it is.

 

 

Nope, I recon the poster was spot on, the "world" in many instances is on its knees. Very sad but very true.

 

Regards

 

Angel.

[Adrians Lad]

Perhaps some criminals - particularly those who prey on the weak and vulnerable - should face very long terms as 'warehoused' prisoners in prisons which don't bother with rehabilitation and which provide minimum amenities, but which are secure places for people who have shown that they present a grave threat to the weaker and vulnerable members of society?

 

Totally agree, but sadly the problem we have here is that the Liberal left ,who bend over backwards to avoid prisoners being given harsh punishments .

The biggest problem facing Governments, prisons and prison officers is The Howard League For Penal Reform . Those raving lefties are a constant thorn in the side for the vast majority who want to see criminals punished severely for their wrong doings.

[Murphy Jnr]

It may be a despicable crime, but people really do need to be a bit more streetwise when they're out shopping. The number of people I see in the supermarket with open bags with purses clearly on display (usually older women) makes it easy for the opportunist thief to commit a crime like this. Particulary when the owner of the bag is distracted by what's on the shelves and aren't keeping an eye on their bag.

 

I'm inclined to agree with you (on this thread ) there are a lot of open invitations out there if you're that way inclined.

[Lewis Pyneweck]

I was in the Central Library last Tuesday morning when a lady came up to me and warned me to watch my bag as she had put a bag of food shopping down while she looked at the books and someone had stolen it. I was amazed as there were not many people in the library,it wasn't like snatching a bag from a crowded place,you would think that the person would have been afraid of being seen as they walked out with it.

[Jim Hardie]

I hate the pain in the Butts that are the Human Rights do gooders ! They get right on my ***** ! What about the poor victims,it makes my blood boil when things like this happens ! These scum bags should be put in the middle of the ocean and drowned ! I HATE THEM !!

 

No! No! No! You uneducated fool! Justice is never the answer.

[morecamberox]

"In the UK it is estimated that each new prison place costs £119,000 and that the annual average cost for each prisoner exceeds £40,000." Kevin Marsh, from insidetime issue May 2009

 

Young offenders (10 - 17 years old) can cost in excess of £140,000 per annum to lock up.

 

In fact, this is the real reason for successive governments failing to impose what the general public believe to be prison sentences that reflect the crimes committed.

 

I'm not sure there are too many people on SF who are complaining that their taxes are too low. As is so often the case, you get what you pay for.