Big time   10 #1 Posted October 13, 2011 Employees in a unionised workplace that have chosen not to join the union are often resented by some of their colleagues that are union members, because the non-union members can of course reep the "benifits" that the union wins for the employees of the company even though they've not paid into the union.  I can understand why this causes some resentment, but isn't this attitude of the union members towards their non-union member colleagues akin to the capitalist approach, in as much as you as an individual get of of life what you put in, so if you dont join the union and pay into it you dont get the benefits of it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
skinz   10 #2 Posted October 13, 2011 Depends if the attitude has a debilitating effect on those singled out? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Conrod   10 #3 Posted October 13, 2011 Some people just don't want to support an organisation that is militant and left wing - should be their choice.  If an employee of mine joined a union he'd soon be out of a job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
skinz   10 #4 Posted October 13, 2011 Some people just don't want to support an organisation that is militant and left wing - should be their choice. If an employee of mine joined a union he'd soon be out of a job.[/QUOTE]   Not much of a choice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Big time   10 #5 Posted October 13, 2011 Depends if the attitude has a debilitating effect on those singled out?  Supposing it was strictly the case that you only reep the benifits won by a union in a particular workplace if you are a paid up union member in said workplace, and all the non-union members miss out; fair enough many would say, but then you'd have an unequal workplace of have's and have-not's, just like in capitalist societies where those who make that extra effort reep the rewards while the rest, that havn't, get left behind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mister M   1,625 #6 Posted October 13, 2011 Some people just don't want to support an organisation that is militant and left wing - should be their choice. If an employee of mine joined a union he'd soon be out of a job.  And you'd be breaking the law tough guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Conrod   10 #7 Posted October 13, 2011 And you'd be breaking the law tough guy.Not at all, he'd lose the job for a different reason. I'd find something - but won't employ a leftie or union-type. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Alien52 Â Â 10 #8 Posted October 13, 2011 Not at all, he'd lose the job for a different reason. I'd find something - but won't employ a leftie or union-type. Thanks for the ad in your signature.Now know who to avoid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
alchresearch   214 #9 Posted October 13, 2011 Employees in a unionised workplace that have chosen not to join the union are often resented by some of their colleagues that are union members  That's certainly not my experience of the situation.  After reading the latest UNISON propaganda magazine and the mistruths and misleading information in it I'm surprised that unions have any respect from bosses or members.  Prentiss was bleating on about how an average public sector worker's pension is £4000, but "fat cat bosses of Britain's top 100 companies are on over £200,000 a year". What a strange comparison to make. Why not compare it like for like?  And its funny Prentiss didn't mention his own £99,000 a year salary and the loophole he's utilised to channel 60% of it to his pension so he doesn't pay tax. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ampersand   10 #10 Posted October 13, 2011 Not at all, he'd lose the job for a different reason. I'd find something - but won't employ a leftie or union-type.  In spite of stiff competition, that must be one of the most idiotic posts I've read this week Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
rickiethecat   10 #11 Posted October 13, 2011 What puts people off joining unions is the extreme left-wing political views of their leaders and their ties with the labour party.  I think the idea of having a union to represent workers' rights at work is fine in principle but in practice it ends up with union leaders causing unnecessary conflict at work and trying to get their members out on strike for the most trivial of reasons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
alchresearch   214 #12 Posted October 13, 2011 What puts people off joining unions is the extreme left-wing political views of their leaders and their ties with the labour party. I think the idea of having a union to represent workers' rights at work is fine in principle but in practice it ends up with union leaders causing unnecessary conflict at work and trying to get their members out on strike for the most trivial of reasons.  Spot on. The UNISON magazine is nothing more than just petty coalition bashing, often with stuff which is blatantly wrong or misleading - like the pension thing I mentioned above. Why couldn't they compare a public sector worker pension with a person in the private sector doing the same job? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...