Is there anyone left on here that defends this Government?

[Anna B 1,414]

Who actually owns Vodaphone?

 

How come these things are always shrouded in mystery?

[Gordonb 11]

Reading through this thread and others raised by the OP

It would appear that the original title which was was meant to stir up a discussion should perhaps have read "is there anyone on here that believes labour has any form of credibility left or has any chance of forming a government if there was an election next week".

Edited November 3, 2011 by Gordonb
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[I1L2T3 10]

Reading through this thread and others raised by the OP

It would appear that the original title which was was meant to stir up a discussion should perhaps have read "is there anyone on here that believes labour has any form of credibility left or has any chance of forming a government if there was an election next week".

 

The answer to that is an obvious no. My view is none of the parties are fit to govern. We've got the worst shower of rubbish for decades on both sides of parliament just at the time we need proper government. A hapless government and a useless opposition

[Mecky 10]

I've heard this said before, but I personally think that critisism of the Tories for not selling gold is a bit harsh.

 

Selling off substantial amounts of gold is something that should be done as an absolute last resort, if there was a national catastrophe.

 

It was, the banks' ATMs were just over 24 hours from running dry. anyway, what's the point in saving money if you're not going to spend it at some point? That's not aimed at you BTW. We tried saving for a rainy day, the rainy day came and there was hardly enough money in the banks.

 

Now we have had a new government for 18 months or so and they haved totally failed to get the UK moving forward. Now they are saying it's not their fault but the fault of the world's economy. You can bet your life when it's election time it'll be all Labour's fault again and it's gauranteed they will try to bribe people with tax cuts for votes.

[mj.scuba 10]

Today I am disgusted to read that the government has passed upon the opportunity to give fathers a legal right to see their children after a break up. Next time Cameron is preaching about absent fathers, he doesn't even deserve to be listened to.

[Titanic99 10]

Which benefits have been cut?

 

Housing Benefit has seen significant reductions for recipients.

[WeX 10]

Today I am disgusted to read that the government has passed upon the opportunity to give fathers a legal right to see their children after a break up. Next time Cameron is preaching about absent fathers, he doesn't even deserve to be listened to.

 

This disgusted me too. No legal right but all the financial responsibility they can lay their hands on. This is disgusting. How can a mother have a legal right but not a father, how is this equality?

[WeX 10]

Housing Benefit has seen significant reductions for recipients.

 

Housing benefit was capped to prevent greedy landlords and work shy families from living it up on huge houses while the rest of us scrimped and saved to afford a roof over our heads. The cap does not mean people will be thrown out of their homes. There is plenty of housing available below the limit.

 

Housing benefit in the UK was completely ****-eyed, some even received more money per month than their actual rent costs and so have a little windfall over others.

 

Are you saying the new housing benefit system is wrong and people should continue to be supported for years in their home and even be over paid for their rent?

[Keith Rich 10]

Churchill back in 1909, before he left the Liberal Party and joined the conservatives. So if he believed what he said, things must have changed before he joined, thus your argument is completely scuppered by your own words. Either Churchill was a fraud or the conservative party where not the same years later when he joined them.

 

Which of the above do you believe Keith?

 

All this from the very same Churchill who said: “Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.”

 

In other words when Churchill attacks Socialism he's spot on, but when he attacks the Conservatives he's not.

 

Another nutty saying to add to the list on my other post. Cheers

Edited November 4, 2011 by Keith Rich

[Conrod 10]

Housing Benefit has seen significant reductions for recipients.

As Wex says above, it was capped to stop the crazy situation of some people demanding larger houses in expensive areas at the tax payer's expense - houses that most honest working people would never be able to afford.

[Titanic99 10]

Housing benefit was capped to prevent greedy landlords and work shy families from living it up on huge houses while the rest of us scrimped and saved to afford a roof over our heads. The cap does not mean people will be thrown out of their homes. There is plenty of housing available below the limit.

 

Housing benefit in the UK was completely ****-eyed, some even received more money per month than their actual rent costs and so have a little windfall over others.

 

Are you saying the new housing benefit system is wrong and people should continue to be supported for years in their home and even be over paid for their rent?

 

I'm afraid that shows complete ignorance of the changes to the legislation.

 

Others you've not mentioned:

 

LHA values on the 30th percentile instead of 50th means significant reductions to a lot of claimants.

 

Shared rate of LHA to now include single 25-34 year olds.

 

Reductions for people living in Social Housing when they are deemed to have spare rooms.

 

Now if these changes aren't making the poor suffer for the errors of the rich, then what is it?

[Titanic99 10]

As Wex says above, it was capped to stop the crazy situation of some people demanding larger houses in expensive areas at the tax payer's expense - houses that most honest working people would never be able to afford.

 

Afraid you are showing your ignorance of the issue, check my earlier response.