jezzyjj   10 #61 Posted October 21, 2011 I have a good friend who is purely a hobbist when it comes to photography and the images she takes would put a lot of these so called pros to shame. I will be the first to concede that some amateur photographers have a better eye than some professionals. But can your friend still produce the goods [every single time] when she has to shoot to a schedule not of her choosing, with no time to carefully set up shots, when conditions may be anything but optimal? Assuming a a decent level of photographic ability, it's relatively easy as an amateur to go out and get nice shots when you can choose where and when to shoot and more importantly when not to shoot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
speedbirdone   10 #62 Posted October 21, 2011 (edited) I will be the first to concede that some amateur photographers have a better eye than some professionals. But can your friend still produce the goods [every single time] when she has to shoot to a schedule not of her choosing, with no time to carefully set up shots, when conditions may be anything but optimal? Assuming a a decent level of photographic ability, it's relatively easy as an amateur to go out and get nice shots when you can choose where and when to shoot and more importantly when not to shoot.  Can she produce the goods every single time, even when working to a schedule not of her choosing, even under anything but optimal conditions. Id say yeah, her images would be right on the money.  Maybe hobbist was the wrong term of words to describe her. She does shoot portraits, weddings ect ect but does it on a non professional level ( she doesn't do it as a paid living ) Is she taking work away from someone that is trying to earn a living as a photographer, i guess thats a whole different topic of discussion.  I think the original point i was making was that just cus someone gives themselves the title of professional photographer that shouldn't be used as a guide to think there images are going to be ' pro quality ' if you know what i mean. Edited October 21, 2011 by speedbirdone Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ndegwa   10 #63 Posted October 21, 2011 (edited) mainly its the clients i feel sorry for! it will only take one wedding/shoot when the equipment fails/breaks etc... these are probably the same people that dont have insurance to cover their rear ends when the clients take them to court.  A professional photographer not only has equipemnt suitable for the task but their is a lot more to being professional. a few things like;  knowing the limits of your equipement able to react in a moments notice able to predict moments and be ready. knowing what makes a good attractive image. knowing how to control and use available light knows their suppliers has a good accountant has good insurance knows when to say no when a request is out of their ability always pushing themselves towards excellence investing time in research good communication skills keeping everything legal Changing with the times  a professional photographer is anyone that earns moeny from taking images. that maybe part time or full time. The only real difference there is how much of their income comes from photography. The more dependant on photgraphy to earn money the more important the things listed above become. now if all that can be learnt in an hour i will be impressed.  I dont care if another photographer charges £200 or £2K for a wedding, as long as the bride and groom know what to expect and happy with the level of work they will get then thats fine with me. They are both professional in my eyes the unprofessional ones are that charge £200 or £2K and fail to deliver on what was promised.  here is one of my fav vids to prove my point!  Youtube video - ok its in the states but clearly identifies the attitudes some so called pros have and also what some so called pros think they can get away with. Edited October 21, 2011 by ndegwa Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Katie_W Â Â 10 #64 Posted November 1, 2011 I can think of a lot more interesting things to shoot for free other than images for a Yoga practice. But thanks anyway, really selfless of you to offer the experience! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
shirleyF Â Â 10 #65 Posted November 1, 2011 To the original poster. Have you got someone to cover your shoot yet. If not, after nearly two months, are you ready to pay the going rate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Tinkerbell65 Â Â 10 #66 Posted November 9, 2011 Does anyone know of a good photographer who does model portfolios that wont charge the earth ? thank you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
jezzyjj   10 #67 Posted November 10, 2011 Does anyone know of a good photographer who does model portfolios that wont charge the earth ? thank you  What is your budget? As one can tailor a shoot to the budget, assuming it is a sensible amount. Bear in mind if you want a full portfolio, you will want a decent range of shots which take more time that a quick hour in studio. Plus very importantly, you should also budget for a good makeup artist as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
shirleyF Â Â 10 #68 Posted November 10, 2011 I can take some folio shots for you, and I don't charge the earth. Call me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...