Can't Britain just close and say we are full up?

[Quinnwok 10]

But there is work...and if it wasn't for foreigners doing it this country would be in a bigger mess than it already is.

 

what utter rubbish.

[retep 68]

Really retep, who are these three quarters? I don't know of anybody that's had their DNA traced.

 

Probably the same ones who provided the out of Africa DNA, you seemed ok accepting that.

[John X 10]

Oh dear fatal mistake referring to the stage managed BBC and your little racist quips in one post.

 

Are you saying that the BBC actually stage-managed Griffin to get completely tongue-tied and make a complete arse of himself when he tried to explain 'British ethnicity'? He was asked what it was and couldn't actually explain it.

 

And how is it a fatal mistake? Pointing out how even the so called intellectual and well-educated leader of the extreme right was unable to explain what an indigenous Briton is, proves my point nicely.

 

And out of interest, what little racist quips did I make?

 

John X

[boyfriday 21]

Probably the same ones who provided the out of Africa DNA, you seemed ok accepting that.

 

What are you on about retep? I said I didn't know anyone who'd had their DNA tested-out of Africa, out of England or out of Darnall.

[Streamline 10]

What's an indigenous Briton Streamline?

 

Isn't it someone with a small penis Boyfriday?

[taxman 12]

what utter rubbish.

 

So...take away all the NHS staff from abroad, take away all the people from abroad who work in hotels, care homes, farms. Remove all foreign doctors, nurses and dentists. Send back all the cleaners etc etc

 

Have you been to London recently? The place would cease to exist without foreign labour.

[Karis 11]

It's a ridiculous, ridiculous argument to use ancient history in any argument about today's immigration.

 

It's just a pathetically low attempt to justify an exceptionally weak viewpoint.

[John X 10]

"In fact, three quarters of English people can trace an unbroken line of genetic descent through their parental genes from settlers arriving long before the introduction of farming."

 

Are you quoting this to support the idea that we are not a nation of immigrants?

 

If you are, I suggest you read it again! lol

 

John X

[boyfriday 21]

Isn't it someone with a small penis Boyfriday?

 

Wow you're inferiority complex knows no bounds!

[Rupert_Baehr 10]

The majority of houses were ok.Some, because of the ineptness of the council, were not turned around quick enough,and left empty too long and so were vandalised.And of course putting young people in the same block of flats as elderley people didn't help matters.The areas soon had the appearance of neglect, easy victims of demolision.

And I know this from first hand experience.

 

Interesting comment. perhaps you'd care to explain your theory?

 

Why should young people not live in the same communities as old people?

 

Before the advent of 'socialised' [council] housing, were communities segregated by age?

 

Is it not the case that pre-welfare state communities were integrated fully?

 

I live in two different communities. (Part of the year in one, part of the year in another.)

 

At the moment, I'm in my 'summer home' - A small town which has residents ranging in age from 'born today' to 'born 100 or more years ago today'. In my immediate neighbourhood, The semi behind my house has two families. One has teenage children, the other has 'the twins' - 2 3-year old girls. The people across the road have two sons (aged 5 and 7) - plus the grandparents (my age.) Their next-door neighbour lives in a 3 (or maybe 4) generation house. It's a close-knit integrated community (One neighbouring family is Philipino, one is an Austrian, two are German, one is a Turk and most of the rest are Bavarians.) Some of the community are wealthy, most aren't and a few are poor.

 

We're not multiu-culti, of course. - We are the Anwohner (the residents - the community.) It's a successful, thriving low-crime community.

 

The only 'foreigners' are the Saupreuß (Prussian pigs, Prussian sods) - the tourists [and we don't call them that to their faces. ]

 

(BTW. You don't have to be Prussian to be a Prussian pig - you can be an Italian Prussian pig, if you like - It's just a pejorative term and it can be applied to any non-Bavarian non-resident. )

 

Nobody thinks there is anything unusual in having residents whose ages can vary by more than 100 years living in the same community.

 

But you do. Why is that?

 

My other home - the winter home - is somewhat different. It's a gated community. 80% of the people who live there are aged 55+ (and the 'plus' can be a long way plus!) and come from the same professional/career background. Up to 20% can be from different backgrounds and can be under 55 - but the minimum age is 21. It is a comparatively wealthy community.

 

I didn't choose to live there - my wife did and because I get my way more than enough of the time, I was happy to accept her choice in the matter.

 

I'm happy to live there, have a number of friends there and will probably make more.

 

It's a good place to live, but I do have reservations. For a start, I feel like I'm living on a reservation. - A reservation for old farts. (I have other interests: I sail, fish, swim and ride a motorcycle.)

 

I'm not so sure that it's a good idea to segregate communities by age. Older people tend (well, at the moment) to have more money (and smaller mortgages) than do younger people. They also tend (and it's only natural) to want to see more money spent on their needs and wishes than on the needs and wishes of younger people.

 

I'll ask you again: Why do you think it's a bad idea to have older people living in the same community as younger people?

 

(Serious question, too.)

[boyfriday 21]

It's a ridiculous, ridiculous argument to use ancient history in any argument about today's immigration.

 

It's just a pathetically low attempt to justify an exceptionally weak viewpoint.

 

Rather than vent your spleen, would you like to explain why? The discussion has evolved into the definition of 'indigenous Britons' by the way, nobody seems able to describe what they are.

[Streamline 10]

Are you saying that the BBC actually stage-managed Griffin to get completely tongue-tied and make a complete arse of himself when he tried to explain 'British ethnicity'? He was asked what it was and couldn't actually explain it.

 

And how is it a fatal mistake? Pointing out how even the so called intellectual and well-educated leader of the extreme right was unable to explain what an indigenous Briton is, proves my point nicely.

 

And out of interest, what little racist quips did I make?

 

John X

 

It was obviously stage managed. Surprised you're not now referring to Nazis and gas chambers as your next line of attack...

 

 

Sorry i thought we were all knuckle dragging racists and so like other minority groups are due funding....

 

Is that Ok with you???