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Chem1st,how dare you say we were lucky,we worked damn hard all our lives to buy a house. There is no luck involved,just prudence,and the sooner some people get off their backsides and earn a living,the sooner they can afford property.

 

One of the obstacles to the young end have is they want everything brand new. When we started out you bought what you could afford,and put up with second hand furniture,or did without.

 

If people can afford to drink in the pub all day,having abreak now and then to visit the bookies,they deserve all they get when demanding houses given on a plate.

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the sooner some people get off their backsides and earn a living,the sooner they can afford property.ARE YOU JOKING? the government are to blame,they keep saying this country needs to build 3000 houses a year just to keep on top of the shortage. to keep council short of money for replacement housing is crazy. Every election time promises are made to deal with housing,unemployment and so on, yet every government has ruined this country in one way or another get rid of mine, engineering,manufacturing and now the banks have taken care of construction, which affects a hole lot more industries than you think. that's why the young people have no chance of ever owning a home or getting a job? :loopy:

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The council have given away or sold cheaply thousands of our council homes.

Just look from the tram as you pass Parkhill and Norfolk Park and see the vast amount of private housing that has or is being built on prime sites that previously housed people from less well off sections of our society.

Caring council !

 

there are sites all around Sheffield where houses have been demolished but the council get more money from developers as land is at a premium than they would if they have to build and maintain houses!

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I believe that living in a Council house became something of an enigma when it was suddenly deemed to be "Social housing". Not quite sure where that term came from.

 

I was born and brought up in Council houses (my mum still lives in one) and never felt ashamed of coming from such a background.

 

These days people who live in Council properties seem to be scorned upon and are deemed to be the lowest of the low and yet a person can pay hundreds of pounds to RENT a sub-standard home from an unscrupulous landlord and this is deemed to be okay as it isn't a property that belongs to either the Council or a housing association - it is this logic that I cannot get my head around.

My council house is a palace that us two have spent thousands on to make it home ,when we go to that big house in the sky some one else will get the benefit of this place and good luck to them. That is what Sheffield used to be about Socialism at its best.

Now its dog eat dog attitude in other words flick you Jack i'm, alright.

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don't forget the latest xbox, ds, playstation, etc their child has to have so they get loans that have an horrendous amount of interest and think it's ok because they only have to pay a tenner a week back - just think what they could do if they put that tenner into a savings account, it would soon build up. I know several young people who have saved their money and can now afford a house, it's about getting your priorities right and not expecting everything handed on a plate as people think should be done now adays.

The thousands of steel and cutlery workers in Sheffield who but for a few exceptions all lived in OUR city,s council houses did not get any thing on a plate ,all they got was bad backs ,respiratory problems,and industrial diseases.

Then along came Thatcher and her gang of public schoolboys who exported all Sheffields heavy industries abroad so as to take advantage of cheap labour,[often child labour].

And what are we left with in Sheffield ,thousands of people chasing jobs stacking shelves in rip off supermarkets or in call centres etc.

And then we wonder why we have social unrest.

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My council house is a palace that us two have spent thousands on to make it home ,when we go to that big house in the sky some one else will get the benefit of this place and good luck to them. That is what Sheffield used to be about Socialism at its best.

Now its dog eat dog attitude in other words flick you Jack i'm, alright.

 

that's what's wrong with this country and the government.I WOULD LIKE TO SEE JUST ONE OF THE POLITICIANS ON THE DOLE,SAME MONEY WE GET,SAME BILLS AND SEE HOW THEY MANAGE!! not going to happen but we live in hope. its all me,me,me and sod the rest of you :mad::rant:

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there are sites all around Sheffield where houses have been demolished but the council get more money from developers as land is at a premium than they would if they have to build and maintain houses!

Bang on, and it is the less well of who suffer as they are the ones that cannot afford the deposit so as to buy the speck housing that these developers! build ,Often they can put two or more of these little boxes on a site that previosley held a much loved council house with a big garden ,

 

A big example of this is on Gleadless Common were a developer has crammed twice as many private houses on to a site that was counclil housing and was lovely little estate at that!

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My house is not,nor has ever been,social housing,we bought it by sacrificing all the things that the work-shy,lazy,waste-of-space no-hopers think is theirs by right!

 

You mean like cigarettes, alchohol, designer trainers, mobile phones, games consoles, flat screen TV's, holidays, takeaway meals, more than one car per household? I'm always astonished by what people in social housing seem to be able to afford. People don't seem to grasp that sometimes they actually can't have exactly what they want when they want it. I was 8 before I had a holiday and then it was another 7 years before I had another one. My parents simply couldn't afford it because they were desperate to have their own little home for us in a nice area. Sometimes we had a car and when times got really hard Dad sold it and we did without for a year or more till things picked up again.

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Interest rates are being kept low because thousands can't afford to pay their mortgage if interest rates are set at a realistic rate.

 

No - interest rates are low because the economic situation in the country means we need to stimulate growth - housing is just one part of the equation but far from all of it.

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No - interest rates are low because the economic situation in the country means we need to stimulate growth - housing is just one part of the equation but far from all of it.

 

Low interest rates are encouraging debt.

 

That debt fuelled spending could create growth.

 

But isn't debt the problem we have in the first place?

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that's what's wrong with this country and the government.I WOULD LIKE TO SEE JUST ONE OF THE POLITICIANS ON THE DOLE,SAME MONEY WE GET,SAME BILLS AND SEE HOW THEY MANAGE!! not going to happen but we live in hope.
I've spent the last 16 months unemployed, six months on the dole, the next 10 months with no income due to my foolishness at putting all my money into a pension disqualifying me from JSA.

6% a year into a pension, for 30 years = 2.7 years of 2/3s AVERAGE salary pension.

6% a year into a pension for 30 years <<< 30 years of 2/3s final salary pension.

Have people really paid enough in to warrant what they are taking out?

People in their 20s will have to wait until 70 to get a pension under the current regime.

That's why, when I was working, I was putting 25% of my income into my pension.

25% per year for 30 years = 15 years at 2/3 previous income.

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Low interest rates are encouraging debt.

 

 

It isn't though is it. Debt held by the public has been paid down massively since the housing crash started in 2007.

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