chefkicker   11 #49 Posted August 16, 2011 I can remember Barry Nash giving me a beating when I was 21, im nearly 40 now. He was demonstrating a destraction technique with a leading left followed by a right hand. Just some thing simple. A lad turned up late and join up with us to make a threesum. Good old me was volunteered as the crash test dumby. Barry stepped it whith his left hand distraction to my face. Rather than stand there like a crash test dumby, he cam in and some speed, my natural reaction was to step to the left and raise my left gaurd. Barry walked straight into my fist, glasses first and cut the side of his nose. He wasn't a happy man. I tried to apologise, but he'd lost his temper and stormed off.  A few mins later he came back and closed the class with a sparing session. Wasn't I lucky, he wanted to spar with me He cam in full pelt and punched me 3 times in the side of the head turning my eye and the side of my face blue. and said to me, "you think your Bruce Lee wanting to Judo and Karate at the same time"  I called the police who wanted to place both of us under arrest. The acting manager of Hillsborough Leisure Centre was a complete waste of space.  I hope Barry has mellowed in his later youth?   Basically thats "assault" that happened within "controlled sparring". Ive heard of that happening in another kickboxing club (I must stress NOT my own). I hate to hear about bullying in martial arts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Rich   12 #50 Posted August 16, 2011 Basically thats "assault" that happened within "controlled sparring". Ive heard of that happening in another kickboxing club (I must stress NOT my own). I hate to hear about bullying in martial arts.  Sorry mate but I feel I have to interject here to defend my old Sensei, Barry Nash is a lot of things, but he's NOT a bully.. Sure he's perhaps a bit too strict sometimes, which may come across as bullying to some, but he doesn't mean it personally when he's shouting at people, he's just trying to get them to do it right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
rollwithit   12 #51 Posted August 16, 2011 (edited) Basically thats "assault" that happened within "controlled sparring". Ive heard of that happening in another kickboxing club (I must stress NOT my own). I hate to hear about bullying in martial arts.  Hi Rich & chefkicker That was the police's opt out clause. They said they couldn't really bring up assault charges because it happened in a controlled environment and it is a contact sport. But the incident was nearly 20 years ago.  I've noticed many poeple slagging Rob's jujistu club off. Back in my youth when I tried martial arts, Rob's club at the college was excellent. Well run and good instructors, especially Brian the night club bouncer. It's ashame that Rob may have lost the ethics of running a club and has chosen to be a business man. But martial arts is his full time profession, so he does have to make the business pay, even if that means implimenting training contracts.  The best martial art I ever enjoyed was Judo. I could never do complex karate katters or Jujitsu moves, but simple wresling was enjoyable, but sustianed too many minor injuries which pisd off my old employer. Which brings me to another excellent judo coach, Kieth Brown from Rotherham, known as Tiger. Not sure if he's still teaching, the guy must be in his earl 70s. His Saturday classes at Herringthorpe where excellent. Woodhouse judo club was like chucking pit bulls in a pit, god knows why I went there lol? lol  Tried the University judo club but Meagal banned me in the 90s cause I couldn't keep up with the fitness work out, plus I may have broken a students arm. oops Coudn't remember doing that though. I was only a white belt and couldn't even through myself lol.  Its a real shame that neil doesn't run the adult judo at Hillsborough Liesure Centre anymore. I've tried going back to Sheffield Judo Club, but you might as well train on concrete. My old bones couldn't take their floor, (not sprung dojo). Edited August 16, 2011 by rollwithit I'm suprised the spelling police haven't arrived, or are they scared of getting a good slapping lol? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Cyclone   10 #52 Posted August 16, 2011 Sorry mate but I feel I have to interject here to defend my old Sensei, Barry Nash is a lot of things, but he's NOT a bully.. Sure he's perhaps a bit too strict sometimes, which may come across as bullying to some, but he doesn't mean it personally when he's shouting at people, he's just trying to get them to do it right.  Did you read the anecdote, if it's true there wasn't any shouting, there was just deliberately punching someone in the head and not in a sporting way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Cyclone   10 #53 Posted August 16, 2011 I think he was more pssd off that the basic technique he was trying to demonstrate didn't sodding work and he came off worst. I didn't plan to do it, I just jumped out of the way lol. That sort of thing happens sometimes when you're teaching. I nearly got knifed in the face because when I asked someone to attack with it they were quicker off the mark than I expected. There's no malice on their part though, and an instructor can hardly set a good example if he reacts by getting angry! If a technique doesn't work as expected, change it, figure it out. Being an instructor doesn't mean you're perfect, there's no shame in your students knowing that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Cyclone   10 #54 Posted August 16, 2011 The best martial art I ever enjoyed was Judo. I could never do complex karate katters or Jujitsu moves, but simple wresling was enjoyable, but sustianed too many minor injuries which pisd off my old employer. Which brings me to another excellent judo coach, Kieth Brown from Rotherham, known as Tiger. Not sure if he's still teaching, the guy must be in his earl 70s. His Saturday classes at Herringthorpe where excellent. Woodhouse judo club was like chucking pit bulls in a pit, god knows why I went there lol? lol  Tried the University judo club but Meagal banned me in the 90s cause I couldn't keep up with the fitness work out, plus I may have broken a students arm. oops Coudn't remember doing that though. I was only a white belt and couldn't even through myself lol.  Its a real shame that neil doesn't run the adult judo at Hillsborough Liesure Centre anymore. I've tried going back to Sheffield Judo Club, but you might as well train on concrete. My old bones couldn't take their floor, (not sprung dojo).  The university club has a softer floor, you'd have to speak to the current instructor about your 'ban', but if it's from 20 years ago I'm sure you could work something out. There's certainly no one these days who gets kicked out of the club because they aren't fit enough, you work as hard as you can but everyone has a different level of fitness and different goal from training. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
80swasfun   10 #55 Posted August 16, 2011 hi what are the uni running what about sheffield kick boxing can any age attend Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
chefkicker   11 #56 Posted August 16, 2011 hi what are the uni running what about sheffield kick boxing can any age attend  Hi 80's wasfun, Anybody can attend AFK . Out of the instructing faculty, most of them are above 30 with one of them in his 40's. As such we have such a borad range of ages with the students. Granted most of the student body are in their mid twenties to early thirties but we also do have people over 40 and the occasional teenager. In fact we have a couple who are both in their 40's (they dont look it LOL ,I have witnessed the prettier half of that couple being propositioned by one of the young lads from the Boxing club that use the same facility before us ) that both train and also grade with us.  We have all kinds of people in the gym. Those wishing to Grade and earn their belts. We have a full grading system (totally optional) from White Belt right up to Black Belt. We also have the people who like to train for fitness , fun and as a social acitivity.  On top of that we also have the more serious type who compete in Full Contact fight nights (in which we enjoy an 85% win Ratio over the last 3 years). However we dont expect the over 40's to take part in Full contact competition, although they are welcome to sit in the crowds and shout encouragement over a cold beverage  Always welcome ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
rollwithit   12 #57 Posted August 16, 2011 (edited) The university club has a softer floor, you'd have to speak to the current instructor about your 'ban', but if it's from 20 years ago I'm sure you could work something out. There's certainly no one these days who gets kicked out of the club because they aren't fit enough, you work as hard as you can but everyone has a different level of fitness and different goal from training.  Hi, I checked the uni website out, Megeal is still an instructor there.  With regards to Tiger from Rotherham. I've found a Utube link of him teaching last year.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-pEgUV_hsk  The guy is old and still going strong. Edited August 16, 2011 by rollwithit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
DaFoot   10 #58 Posted August 17, 2011 Hi, I checked the uni website out, Megeal is still an instructor there. Do you mean Portuguese Miguel? We haven't seen him for some time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
rollwithit   12 #59 Posted August 17, 2011 Do you mean Portuguese Miguel? We haven't seen him for some time.  Yes, he used to train at woodhousse when I first started judo. Then I used to go to the uni with a mate, this only happened about 5 times. Miguel took offence to me lagging in the warm up, then my mate told me the following week I was banned because I'de broke someones arm in training without knowing. Hence I don't know how true that was. oh well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
DaFoot   10 #60 Posted August 17, 2011 If it was felt the arm breaking was deliberate then maybe someone would have asked you to stay away, if accidental then unlikely. If, as you say, you were a beginner at the time I'm guessing it was a combination of lack of control and over enthusiastic approach to applying the lock. I see it it a lot with folks new to the game Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...