Cyclone   10 #241 Posted September 28, 2012 Trolley buses still run on the road and add to and are delayed by congestion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
chipspice   10 #242 Posted September 28, 2012 I always thought that it didn't run to the south of sheffield because people didn't want it there when the route was brought in Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Jeffrey Shaw   83 #243 Posted September 28, 2012 Trolley buses still run on the road and add to and are delayed by congestion. Not as much as the trams, because trolleybuses have auxiliary motors and can drive offwire (e.g. around obstacles); trams cannot! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
markfor   10 #244 Posted September 28, 2012 Yes it would be good  I never use it because route is not near my house Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Squiggs   11 #245 Posted September 28, 2012 Boris Jetpacks are the answer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
1978   14 #246 Posted September 28, 2012 Ive always said that the tram Must be extended from Herdings Park to Low Edges via Meadowhead , a massive park and ride could be built at Meadowhead with a bus interchange, people then have the option of buying a ticket to park their car and travel on either bus or tram into the city. This would then hopfully ease the " Woodseats Traffic System " of traffic ( Snigger )  A quick look at a map shows Meadowhead to city centre via the ring road to Manor Top, then into town, is about twice as far as going through Woodseats. I wonder if many would really use it if were built. A link from Manor Top to join the existing line by the Arena might make better sense first. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
mahonia   10 #247 Posted September 29, 2012 South west Sheffield has an excellent rail link already that takes only 7-8 minutes from Dore to Sheffield centre. A tramway would be slower.  The train is cheaper than the bus, as well as much quicker. The drawbacks are that it's an hourly service, and the rail station isn't in the centre of town.  The train is busy. There were standing passengers on the 17.14 tonight - and about half the passengers left the train at Dore! There are 3 trains into town in the morning between 8 and 8.30, and all have standing passengers from Dore into town.  Yes but the tram was planned to stop near Millhouses Park & Ride ( A621 ) and then near Heeley Bridge ( A61 ) so this would give the option of people using the tram  A quick look at a map shows Meadowhead to city centre via the ring road to Manor Top, then into town, is about twice as far as going through Woodseats. I wonder if many would really use it if were built. A link from Manor Top to join the existing line by the Arena might make better sense first.  People could go to the moon quicker then driving through Woodseats The tram in the old days ( pre October 1960 closure ) did go from the Manor down Prince Of Wales Road , you could have a Meadowhall - Lowedges service via Manor Top & Meadowhead , this would replace the long gone 2/59 outer circle bus service Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Cyclone   10 #248 Posted September 29, 2012 Not as much as the trams, because trolleybuses have auxiliary motors and can drive offwire (e.g. around obstacles); trams cannot!  But you were saying they were a better option than a mono rail, not than a tram... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
F1fan   10 #249 Posted September 29, 2012 Lets just get rid of the tram  If anything we should expand. They are much more reliable, run on time much more than the bus and carry more people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Guest busdriver1 Â Â #250 Posted September 29, 2012 If anything we should expand. They are much more reliable, run on time much more than the bus and carry more people. Â It has been proven beyond doubt that the reliability is at the expense of all other road users. If a competent body could be found to arrange the expansion of the trams it should only be done to extensions that are "off road". Given the complete mess that was made of the original build SYPTE should not be involved. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
1978 Â Â 14 #251 Posted September 29, 2012 They are much more reliable, run on time much more than the bus and carry more people. Â True, for those living near the tramlines. Â Who's going to pay for a massive new investment that helped only a small percentage of the population, wherever it would be expanded to? Â F1fan may find Bernie Ecclestone's millions aren't available - or enough if they were! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Cyclone   10 #252 Posted September 29, 2012 True, for those living near the tramlines.  Who's going to pay for a massive new investment that helped only a small percentage of the population, wherever it would be expanded to?  F1fan may find Bernie Ecclestone's millions aren't available - or enough if they were!  It's not that small a percentage though is it, particularly when you think about how park and ride works. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...