wednesday1   10 #13 Posted March 14, 2011 Such rubbish, as usual. If they hate the poor why did Frank Field join them in that poverty review? Frank Field - from one of the poorest Labour areas in the country?  Why did the Tories ring fence Sure Start from day one when every leftie tried to claim the Tories would axe it?   Let us hope that this ringfence is a bit more sturdy than the one which Smarmy Dave put around the NHS. Remember 'we'll cut the deficit not the NHS' as big a liar as Clegg. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Greybeard   10 #14 Posted March 14, 2011 Why don't the ConDems do what Labour are suggesting and reintroduce Labours Bankers windfall tax to promote economic growth???.  Why would a new govt. take advice from members of the previous govt. the electorate had rejected ?  They had 13 years to gain the enduring confidence of the British public but failed. Ed Balls was one of the chief architects of that failure but now believes he has the right to suggest' govt. policy ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
evildrneil   14 #15 Posted March 14, 2011 No but they imposed this tax on those who are most able to pay and who caused the credit crunch in the first place, and is what this thread is about.  And here was me thinking it was another of your regular propaganda whingathons.  Because they are Tories, they live for blaming the poor and making them suffer, the fact they are doing so to protect the vested interests of their backers is just an added bonus to them.  Of course - because the conservatives split there time between twirling their mustachioes while cackling evilly and finding peasants to kick. Do you really have such a cartoonish hackneyed view of politics!?  Although it may not suit your politics, not a single government is to be blamed for the economic fiasco we are in - the blame lies well and truly at the door of the banks, nationally, and internationally.  Although it may not suit your politics there is a pretty unhealthy deficit ignoring the bank bail out. While ignoring the role of the banks and blaming the government entirely is foolish equally so is ignoring the role of the government and blaming the financial institutions entirely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
wednesday1   10 #16 Posted March 14, 2011 1Why would a new govt. take advice from members of the previous govt. the electorate had rejected ? 2 They had 13 years to gain the enduring confidence of the British public but failed. Ed Balls was one of the chief architects of that failure but now believes he has the right to suggest' govt. policy ?   1) Through most of these 13 years they didn't need to raise additional dough (as I suspect you already know) when it WAS needed, in their last year in power the windfall tax WAS introduced.   2) I think many people are now realising they made a huge mistake in placing their trust in two partys' who are both as guilty of misleading the electorate in their manifestos as each other. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
wednesday1 Â Â 10 #17 Posted March 14, 2011 And here was me thinking it was another of your regular propaganda whingathons. Â Â Â And? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Wildcat   10 #18 Posted March 14, 2011 Of course - because the conservatives split there time between twirling their mustachioes while cackling evilly and finding peasants to kick. Do you really have such a cartoonish hackneyed view of politics!? they don't all have moustaches Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Anna Glypta   10 #19 Posted March 14, 2011 Thankyou An..................archist!  Your logic escapes me, but there again so does your grasp of economics. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
alchresearch   215 #20 Posted March 15, 2011 Ring fenced to the extent that 250 Sure Start Centres are to close? http://www.daycaretrust.org.uk/pages/250-sure-start-childrens-centres-face-closure-within-a-year.html  Do you have any better sources than the biased "Daycare Trust" who are just scarermongering.  This BBC link: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-12301690  clearly states that the "closure" is based on operator's fears and thoughts and not based on anything other than that.  The money is still being provided by the government to councils. If the councils choose not to spend the money given to them on Surestart that's not the government's problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
F. Sidebottom   10 #21 Posted March 15, 2011 Doesn't anyone ever consider blaming those people that borrowed money who couldn't afford to pay it back, and subsequently didn't pay it back (while the rest of us honour our debts), for the mess we are in? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
truman   10 #22 Posted March 15, 2011 Doesn't anyone ever consider blaming those people that borrowed money who couldn't afford to pay it back, and subsequently didn't pay it back (while the rest of us honour our debts), for the mess we are in?  No,No surely they're the victims in all this.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
mj.scuba   10 #23 Posted March 15, 2011 Doesn't anyone ever consider blaming those people that borrowed money who couldn't afford to pay it back, and subsequently didn't pay it back (while the rest of us honour our debts), for the mess we are in?  Pay it back? How dare you suggest people be responsible for themselves! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Wildcat   10 #24 Posted March 15, 2011 Do you have any better sources than the biased "Daycare Trust" who are just scarermongering.  This BBC link: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-12301690  clearly states that the "closure" is based on operator's fears and thoughts and not based on anything other than that.  The money is still being provided by the government to councils. If the councils choose not to spend the money given to them on Surestart that's not the government's problem.  Not sure if you have put the right link up, because your article says:  "But the level of this grant is 11% lower than the equivalent funding for the previous year.  And the protection around children's centre funding has been removed in a shake-up of budgets"  The money is not still available, the inevitable consequence of this is:  "Of those who had an indication of what their budgets for 2011-12 would be, 86% said they were expecting reductions.  The charities said if the findings of the survey were replicated across all centres in England, it would lead to about 250 closures and 2,000 providing a reduced service." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...