Is Satan really a bad person?

[sccsux 10]

We see a bag of sweets and we want it.

 

Who/what gave us the capacity to want things?

[Grahame 10]

Who said anything about being taught?

 

I asked who/what gave us the capacity to do evil, nothing about teaching.

 

He has eyes to see and hands to take. Are you saying we should be born blind and limbless.

[denlin 12]

Blinking 'eck he managed 3 hours, I'm impressed do you think we'll get some straight answers now?

[denlin 12]

He has eyes to see and hands to take. Are you saying we should be born blind and limbless.

 

That is not a straight answer to the question that was asked. This was question. Who said anything about being taught?

 

I asked who/what gave us the capacity to do evil, nothing about teaching.

 

Would you like to try again Grahame

[Grahame 10]

Who/what gave us the capacity to want things?

 

Ourselves. We were given the ability to say no. If we do wrong it is our choice.

[Karis 11]

I dont think we're born innocent. I think that again sets us up for divine failure...

[andikay 10]

When you or I do wrong it is our choice.

 

And the choices you make are determined by how you were built (DNA) and the environment you were brought up in.

 

If God gives one child loving caring parents and good DNA and they turn out good, he rewards them.

 

If God gives another child crap violent parents and rubbish DNA and they turn out bad he punishes them.

 

So God isn’t a fair God.

[Grahame 10]

And the choices you make are determined by how you were built (DNA) and the environment you were brought up in.

 

If God gives one child loving caring parents and good DNA and they turn out good, he rewards them.

 

If God gives another child crap violent parents and rubbish DNA and they turn out bad he punishes them.

 

So God isn’t a fair God.

 

God knows this and has provided a solution called forgiveness.

[sccsux 10]

<snip>.

 

Annnd another deflection attempt.

 

Who/what gave us the capacity to want things?

 

Ourselves.

 

So "god" didn't create humans then?

 

Thanks for being honest, for a change.

 

 

So what gave us the capacity to do evil?

[sccsux 10]

God knows this and has provided a solution called forgiveness.

 

Ah, the get out doctrine.

[andikay 10]

God knows this and has provided a solution called forgiveness.

 

So does God forgive every one then?

[Plain Talker 11]

God knows this and has provided a solution called forgiveness.

 

So, god forgives my former neighbours' children for having to be taken into care, in order to protect them from the neglectful, feckless imbeciles they had to call their parents?

 

My schoolfriend is forgiven for being raped by, and having a child to, her paedophile father, is she?