sccsux   10 #613 Posted April 24, 2011 We see a bag of sweets and we want it.  Who/what gave us the capacity to want things? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Grahame   10 #614 Posted April 24, 2011 Who said anything about being taught? I asked who/what gave us the capacity to do evil, nothing about teaching.  He has eyes to see and hands to take. Are you saying we should be born blind and limbless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
denlin   12 #615 Posted April 24, 2011 Blinking 'eck he managed 3 hours, I'm impressed do you think we'll get some straight answers now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
denlin   12 #616 Posted April 24, 2011 He has eyes to see and hands to take. Are you saying we should be born blind and limbless.  That is not a straight answer to the question that was asked. This was question. Who said anything about being taught?  I asked who/what gave us the capacity to do evil, nothing about teaching.  Would you like to try again Grahame Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Grahame   10 #617 Posted April 24, 2011 Who/what gave us the capacity to want things?  Ourselves. We were given the ability to say no. If we do wrong it is our choice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Karis   11 #618 Posted April 24, 2011 I dont think we're born innocent. I think that again sets us up for divine failure... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
andikay   10 #619 Posted April 24, 2011 When you or I do wrong it is our choice.  And the choices you make are determined by how you were built (DNA) and the environment you were brought up in.  If God gives one child loving caring parents and good DNA and they turn out good, he rewards them.  If God gives another child crap violent parents and rubbish DNA and they turn out bad he punishes them.  So God isn’t a fair God. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Grahame   10 #620 Posted April 24, 2011 And the choices you make are determined by how you were built (DNA) and the environment you were brought up in.  If God gives one child loving caring parents and good DNA and they turn out good, he rewards them.  If God gives another child crap violent parents and rubbish DNA and they turn out bad he punishes them.  So God isn’t a fair God.  God knows this and has provided a solution called forgiveness. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
sccsux   10 #621 Posted April 24, 2011 <snip>.  Annnd another deflection attempt.  Who/what gave us the capacity to want things?  Ourselves.  So "god" didn't create humans then?  Thanks for being honest, for a change.   So what gave us the capacity to do evil? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
sccsux   10 #622 Posted April 24, 2011 God knows this and has provided a solution called forgiveness.  Ah, the get out doctrine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
andikay   10 #623 Posted April 24, 2011 God knows this and has provided a solution called forgiveness.  So does God forgive every one then? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Plain Talker   11 #624 Posted April 24, 2011 God knows this and has provided a solution called forgiveness.  So, god forgives my former neighbours' children for having to be taken into care, in order to protect them from the neglectful, feckless imbeciles they had to call their parents?  My schoolfriend is forgiven for being raped by, and having a child to, her paedophile father, is she? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...