staninoodle   175 #25 Posted October 4, 2010 All the current negative press re benefit claimants,and exagerated claims,have thrown up the holier than thou attitude. many of todays families,even those in work claim tax credit or housing benefit and its people like the OP that make others feel that may be doing something wrong. Is there not ENOUGH genuine crime around our lives today that this person could engage thier day in solving. Makes me feel sick that someone watches our every move and makes exagerated assumptions,all boils down to jealousy,in my humble opinion:rant: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mr Bloke   1,445 #26 Posted October 4, 2010 I think the OP could be on to something here!  If we all reported each other for suspected offences (benefit fraud, public nuisance, noise, litter or just because we don't like our neighbours), think of the number of new jobs we could create to investigate these claims, which would stimulate the local economy!  May need to think this one through a bit, and don't yet know who will pay these people, but I'm working on it! Any ideas? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
mojo1 Â Â 10 #27 Posted October 4, 2010 I wonder how much money the government loses each year investigating false accusations and hearsay, and how many lives are affected by it? Â It must be awfull having that feeling that your neighbours are watching your every move through spite tinted glasses. Â If you know something for a fact then report away, if Mrs Smith at number 26 heard from her nephews friends mum that something may be going on, then dont. I would have thought it was that bloody simple! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Digsy   10 #28 Posted October 4, 2010 (edited) My father was a sick man towards the end, diabetes, kidney failure, heart disease, and diminishing eyesight, he needed 24 hour help and care. As a family we could only provide so much, we have children of our own, we had to bathe him, drive him about, and look after him. He had his own flat and was in a 17 year relationship, to which they both lived separately.  Some turd grassed him up for staying at his girlfriends for more than 3 nights a week, both he and his girlfriend accrued debts with the social and the housing the system wasn't providing him any care (other than drugs dialysis and benefits), it was his family and girlfriend that he was forced to rely on. He couldn't receive care because he had his girlfriend and family to rely on, go figure.  Needless to say, the next 5 years became an extreme struggle, having to pay back his debts meant that he had even less to live on, and not being able to stay at his partners for fear of the housing/social jumping on them again meant that a dying man had to go four days a week for 5 years with little to no care, until inevitably he dropped dead. His partner could not stay at his flat because she had obligations to her own children, grandchildren.   My father was deaf, he couldn't phone us to let us know that he'd not been able to feed himself for days, he'd not been able to bathe and stuff. And because he was a proud man, he wouldn't let on the difficulties he was having to live through.  So to the op, yeah by all means stick yer nose in where it don't belong, you obviously have nothing better to do with yourself. Edited October 4, 2010 by Digsy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Paul2412 Â Â 10 #29 Posted October 4, 2010 I don't like to be judgmental about people, but the op is vile! Nebulous accusations built on self righteous suppositions and conclusions, a tissue of chinese whispers with very little foundation. Â Please don't thank me, I wish I hadn't read your 'rant' at all, I feel I want to wash my mind out with bleach, now. Â ... and what if they are indeed correct, and the family are committing benefit fraud? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
rubydazzler   11 #30 Posted October 4, 2010 ... and what if they are indeed correct, and the family are committing benefit fraud?Do you think from the information contained in the op, that it's very likely? As I said, it reads to me like a load of 'he said, she said' about someone they don't even know.  But if you think it might be correct, you're quite entitled to tell the threadstarter to go right ahead and report them on the basis of spiteful gossip and supposition about the family circumstances. I would not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mr Bloke   1,445 #31 Posted October 4, 2010 I would like to stick my opinion in here. My father was a sick man towards the end, diabetes, kidney failure, heart disease, and diminishing eyesight, he needed 24 hour help and care. As a family we could only provide so much, we have children of our own, we had to bathe him, drive him about, and look after him. He had his own flat and was in a 17 year relationship, to which they both lived separately.  Some turd grassed him up for staying at his girlfriends for more than 3 nights a week, both he and his girlfriend accrued debts with the social and the housing because nobody was providing him any care, it was his family and girlfriends that he was forced to rely on.  Needless to say, the next 5 years became an extreme struggle, having to pay back his debts meant that he had even less to live on, and not being able to stay at his partners for fear of the housing/social jumping on them again meant that a dying man had to go four days a week with little to no care. His partner could not stay at his flat because she had obligations to her own children, grandchildren.  My father was deaf, he couldn't phone us to let us know that he'd not been able to feed himself for days, he'd not been able to bathe and stuff. And because he was a proud man, he wouldn't let on the difficulties he was having to live through.  So to the op, yeah by all means stick yer nose in where it don't belong, you obviously have nothing better to do with yourself.  I sincerely sympathise with this - if this example is breaking the rules then the system needs changing!  Anyone in this position should not have to worry about how many people may decide to report them - the system should cater for individual cases without any inconvenience to the person whatsoever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Paul2412 Â Â 10 #32 Posted October 4, 2010 Do you think from the information contained in the op, that it's very likely? As I said, it reads to me like a load of 'he said, she said' about someone they don't even know. Â But if you think it might be correct, you're quite entitled to tell the threadstarter to go right ahead and report them on the basis of spiteful gossip and supposition about the family circumstances. I would not. Â As a (I presume?) fellow taxpayer, I thought you'd hold the same opinion in that if something looks suspicious then to ask the authorities to look into it. Â Or would that class me as a "snitch"? Better to just ignore it and potentially let them get away with it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Digsy   10 #33 Posted October 4, 2010 ... and what if they are indeed correct, and the family are committing benefit fraud?  Then no doubt it would be easy to obtain evidence, which is different to spreading hearsay. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
rubydazzler   11 #34 Posted October 4, 2010 As a (I presume?) fellow taxpayer, I thought you'd hold the same opinion in that if something looks suspicious then to ask the authorities to look into it. Or would that class me as a "snitch"? Better to just ignore it and potentially let them get away with it?I've given you my answer and explained my reasons. Maybe you could now endeavour to persuade some of the other posters on this thread to alter their opinion of the original post? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
China-Black   10 #35 Posted October 4, 2010 Hi, somebody who lives a street away lives on benifits (We have our suspicion's) they can afford holidays to america every year, The family is a single mum with 1 child What i have been told they live across from thier parents (The childs grand-parents), The mother does not work, neither does her sister who lives with her parents. Surely the grand parents can't be THAT rich to pay mortages/bills for 3 houses on the SAME street, if they did why live in sheffield.  From what my friend told me they went to disney land in florida, the childs grandmother apparwntly has a bad back and is pushed around in a wheel chair ON HOLIDAY, but in england she can walk fine with no visual pain what so ever. Are they living off benifits at the tax payers expense? WHat are your thoughts? Surely the lads mother could have a part time job, but she doesnt, the child is at least over 16 so he is capable of looking after himself if the mother is not around  Thank you for reading my rant, i dont like benifit scroungers at all (As you may have noticed)  Regards Ste345  Your story doesnt stand and could be slander. I dont know why you are so interested. You need to keep yourself to yourself and stop listening to what could be false allegations. You never know whats hanging over your own head.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
mgs58 Â Â 10 #36 Posted October 4, 2010 Instead of spying on your neighbors and doing the government's dirty work why not vent your spleen on the real drain on our nation's resources? For example: the MPs who've been robbing the public coffers for years with impunity and get away with little more than a slap on the wrist or the war mongers who or waste countless millions (not to mention British lives) on pointless foreign wars when they can't even defend our own borders. And what about the bankers who've plunged the world in to recession but who have the gall to demand millions in bonuses whilst the rest of us are expected to tighten our belts, suffer our services been cut or 'streamlined' and face redundancies on a scale not seen since the Thatcher years. Fact: there's more money saved as a result of benefits people are entitled to but don't claim than money lost through fraudulent claims. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...