If 2pac didnt get killed do you still think he would be making music.

[teuton 10]

What can I say to that, this argument will go on forever. I believe he didn't do it, having listened to his music/interviews/speeches etc, he is the last person who I think would be capable of that.

 

He was convicted so he did it

[practitioner 10]

That's not how the jury saw things.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5F0Mp7RQUA#t=2m40s

 

2pac being questioned in a interview about the rape. Take it how you take it.

 

just some others: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fiUL5toWZ4

Edited July 18, 2010 by practitioner

[teuton 10]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5F0Mp7RQUA#t=2m40s

 

2pac being questioned in a interview about the rape. Take it how you take it.

 

Well he isn't going to admit it is he

[practitioner 10]

Well he isn't going to admit it is he

 

I take it then you believe everyone who has a criminal charge bought up against them is guilty.

[teuton 10]

I think it is time to bring this thread to a conclusion

 

2pac was the best selling hip hop artist of all time and it would seem people liked his music so he would probably still be making music today

 

What ever crimes he may or may not have committed doesn't change this

 

So it would seem 2pac was the best of the rappers, anyway it's that Eminem i don't like now, he can't sing, it sounds like a cat fight and he is selling it

[Paul Blade 10]

You would call this man a hero, read the rest

 

On November 18, 1993, Tupac "2Pac" Shakur was arrested for sexually abusing a 19-year-old woman, who he met in a New York nightclub, and allegedly sodomized and sexually abused with three of his friends. In 1995, he was sentenced to prison for up to four and a half years, but received an early release after a few months. In September 1996, the 25-year-old Shakur was shot four times in the chest and died from the wounds.

Previous Arrests

 

1992 - Tupac was arrested after being involved in an altercation in which a stray bullet killed a child, but the charges were later dismissed.

 

April 5, 1993 - Tupac spent 10 days in a Michigan prison for beating another rapper with a baseball bat.

 

October 31, 1993 - Tupac allegedly stopped to help a black motorist who he felt was being harassed by the policemen. A fight broke out and Tupac shot one policemen in the leg and the other in the buttocks. When it was determined that the policemen were intoxicated and carrying guns taken from the police evidence room, the charges were dropped.

 

November 18, 1993 - Shakur was arrested on the sexual abuse and sodomy charges and weapons charges in New York City. The sodomy and weapons charges were dropped.

 

November 10, 1994 - Tupac, slated to star in the movie Meance II, punched the director Allen Hughes. He spent 15 days in prison and was replaced in the movie by Larenz Tate.

 

November 30, 1994, Tupac Shakur was ambushed by three black men in the lobby of a recording studio in Times Square in New York City. The men robbed him of over $35,000 in cash and jewelry and shot him five times - hitting his head, groin and hand.

 

On September 7, 1996 in Las Vegas, Nevada, Shakur attended the Mike Tyson and Bruce Seldon boxing match. Allegedly after the match, Shakur was involved in a fight in the lobby of the MGM Hotel. Later that evening he was shot in his car in a drive-by shooting. He suffered four gun shot wounds and died in the University of Nevada Hospital six days later. Although there was much speculation about the murder being stimulated by an ongoing rivalry between gangs associated with east and west coast rap recording companies, the murder was never officially solved.

 

The only one there that should concern people is the rape charge, which the lady in question fabricated for attention.

 

for all the other charges there is good reasons and motives. he was a model citizen one who stood up for what he believed in, stop trying to throw dirt on his name so long after his death.

 

Now I will admit I don't like rap,hip hop and neither do I like punk but that doesn't stop me or anyone from having an opinion but I think the bold comment was complete BS

What good reasons were there for hitting another rapper with a baseball bat or punching a film director or any of the bolded in the other quote

It seems to me that if something he didn't like/agree with the first thing he thought of was violence

[practitioner 10]

Now I will admit I don't like rap,hip hop and neither do I like punk but that doesn't stop me or anyone from having an opinion but I think the bold comment was complete BS

What good reasons were there for hitting another rapper with a baseball bat or punching a film director or any of the bolded in the other quote

It seems to me that if something he didn't like/agree with the first thing he thought of was violence

 

Go and find out, google holds all the information you'll ever need.

[Paul Blade 10]

Go and find out, google holds all the information you'll ever need.

 

No matter what the reason Violence ensures more Violence

You live by the sword you die by the sword or gun

IMO there are too many of the 'rap' culture saying by words or action its OK to berate attack or kill someone if they have different views to you or say something which you may take offence, to get violent, its OK you're a 'rap star'

You can hear about it every day in real life the big hard men until they find themselves face down in the gutter with a couple of hefty coppers kneeling on their heads while they are 'cuffed' Then they start yelling Police brutality

Let all the police carry Tasers They yell stop you don't ZAP They say get down you don't ZAP Turn over No? ZAP

Bring more respect to the police if they have to use a taser then automatic 12 months , no appeal or early release whatever12 months

 

I think they should reword the 'rights' the police use to something like

You have the right to remain unconscious

If you give up that right we have the right to put you back into that state

 

lot less bother from the gobby I am's

[flamingjimmy 10]

I take it then you believe everyone who has a criminal charge bought up against them is guilty.

 

He wasn't just charged, he was convicted by a jury of his peers. He was a convicted sex offender.

 

It disgusts me how you can just poo poo away all of the thugish behaviour and violence in his life and call him a model citizen. I get that you're a fanboy, but that's really taking it too far.

[teuton 10]

What a weird thread. I'm sure most music fans can barely recall an obscure 1990s artist by the name of 2Pac. Even if he did have a few hits, you can hardly call some bloke mumbling about bitches, hoes and guns over a sampled drum loop as particularly creative. A talentless nobody, now virtually forgotten!

 

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