algy   11 #73 Posted October 19, 2010 What ruins? Here's a good place to start http://www.sheffieldhistory.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=5885&view=findpost&p=36483 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
fake   10 #74 Posted October 19, 2010 Here's a good place to start http://www.sheffieldhistory.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=5885&view=findpost&p=36483  Sorry, yes I know the history but would like to know what ruins could be expose in such a small area?  Quote:  "very little was left standing, and what remained became a quarry for the townspeople, who seem to have completed the destruction of the building and carried away all the visible masonry,"  From that article it seems like only traces remain. Unless something substantial is hidden then the whole enterprise will be just a waste of money. There is hardly anything left at the Manor to encourage visitors despite its new (waste of money) visitors centre and I'm sure this would be no different.  The History is great but the building itself in no way should be preserved or listed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
algy   11 #75 Posted December 21, 2010 Just had an email from English Heritage to say the application for listed status has been turned down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Leg-end   10 #76 Posted December 21, 2010 (edited) Same here... hurrah!  CONCLUSION  Castle Market does not fulfil the criteria necessary to recommend designation in the national context.  REASONS FOR DESIGNATION DECISION:  Castle Market, a 1958-65 market hall, shops and attached office block by Andrew Derbyshire, with attached meat and fish market of 1928-30, is not recommended for designation for the following principal reasons:  * Historic interest: although Castle Market was designed by Andrew Derbyshire, as a component of the wider radical post-war regeneration of Sheffield, this unrealised scheme is only expressed in the design of Castle Market through the provision of high level pedestrian bridges across Exchange Street.  * Architectural interest: the complex is formed by a number of components built in phases and dominated by the taller office block, which is standard in appearance for its date, whilst there is an overall lack of consistency in detailing, and the inter-war market is utilitarian and standard for the date of its construction  * Technological: the complex lacks technological innovation in its construction  * Planning: whilst the market hall is intelligently designed to fit in a constricted and sloping site, there are inherent problems of internal access, the provision of natural light to the lower floor, and difficulty of use of mezzanine storage for the stalls  * Materials: there is a lack of use of high quality materials or attention to finishes, or significant artwork by a notable artist or sculptor  Very informative 'advice report'. Edited December 21, 2010 by Leg-end Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
chrissyd09 Â Â 10 #77 Posted December 21, 2010 It should be pulled down and a feature made of the castle remains, then we could link in the Sheaf Quays with that part of town, the Quays are a beautiful yet under utilsed area. Â We should also pull down the coop building and regenerate the old court buildings/town hall and make that area something to be proud of, we could do something similar to Leopold Sq as that is now a beautiful building restored and reused. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
morrisminor   10 #78 Posted December 21, 2010 Same here... hurrah! CONCLUSION  Castle Market does not fulfil the criteria necessary to recommend designation in the national context.....................  Very informative 'advice report'.  Leg-end do you have a link to that report or somewhere it can be found? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
duckweed   10 #79 Posted December 21, 2010 This is the actually the 2nd time the market was put up for listing. Apparently it was put up several years ago and refused then but English Heritage is obliged if several people put a building up for listing to consider the arguments from all sides before making a decision. For heavens sake knock it down before some more idiots put it up for listing. I am told by a reliable source that the Council has sufficient funding to knock down the market and relocate it on the moor in spite of the rest of the scheme having lost money. As for how much ruins there is of the castle, it is difficult to say due to the way the castle was demolished. In any case if you look how little Yorvik has and yet they have a major venue that earns York economy millions every year. Why can't we do similar? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...