Bloomdido 10 #1 Posted June 8, 2010 Some convert because the food is better, others because it affords protection and status. An alarming trend? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
alex3659 11 #2 Posted June 8, 2010 (edited) Some convert because the food is better, others because it affords protection and status. An alarming trend? Not really, just inmates trying to get as much as possible out of the situation they are in. Prison churches in England are amongst the best attended in the country, does that mean all the prisoners have suddenly got religious? or does the fag and a swig of holy wine off the chaplain get them in? Edited June 8, 2010 by alex3659 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
horribleblob 202 #3 Posted June 8, 2010 Some convert because the food is better, others because it affords protection and status. An alarming trend? The vegetarian food is also better, I hear. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
callippo 10 #4 Posted June 8, 2010 seeing as the average Muslim in the UK is only 28 years old rather than the national average of 41 this isn't surprising. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
azazel666 10 #5 Posted June 8, 2010 It is an alarming figure....11% of the prison population when only 2.7% of the total population......I wonder why that is(genuinely)?. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Tradescanthia 10 #6 Posted June 8, 2010 More trolling methinks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Whatif wewin 10 #7 Posted June 8, 2010 If prisons cut out all this pandering, not just to Muslims, or expediant Muslims; but to all inmates it might just make a proper prison. A proper prison should deter future crime and educate - to help alleviate the circumstances that do not help prevent crime (unemployment or low pay). It should deter by being a place where criminals really do not want to return to. No pandering with religion, not to Jews, Catholics, Muslims or whatever. No expensive meals, no phones, no TV. Prisoners should only have supervised high tech access i.e. computers- internet if they have a specific educational need; which should be properly assessed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
alex3659 11 #8 Posted June 8, 2010 If prisons cut out all this pandering, not just to Muslims, or expediant Muslims; but to all inmates it might just make a proper prison. A proper prison should deter future crime and educate - to help alleviate the circumstances that do not help prevent crime (unemployment or low pay). It should deter by being a place where criminals really do not want to return to. No pandering with religion, not to Jews, Catholics, Muslims or whatever. No expensive meals, no phones, no TV. Prisoners should only have supervised high tech access i.e. computers- internet if they have a specific educational need; which should be properly assessed. You'll be wanting them to make their own beds next.:rolleyes:. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
azazel666 10 #9 Posted June 8, 2010 If prisons cut out all this pandering, not just to Muslims, or expediant Muslims; but to all inmates it might just make a proper prison. A proper prison should deter future crime and educate - to help alleviate the circumstances that do not help prevent crime (unemployment or low pay). It should deter by being a place where criminals really do not want to return to. No pandering with religion, not to Jews, Catholics, Muslims or whatever. No expensive meals, no phones, no TV. Prisoners should only have supervised high tech access i.e. computers- internet if they have a specific educational need; which should be properly assessed. Exactly....the perfect prison should be safe, but dreadful to exist in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
tab1 10 #10 Posted June 8, 2010 (edited) Times on line has taken the same report that was mentioned by the BBC and other news outlets without any hysterics and turned it into something to be alarmed about. The main thrust of the report is not that inmates are converting to Islam but that the treatment of prisoners by staff is perhaps leading them down the path to extremism, now I would be alarmed at that more than if someone converts for the convenience of enjoying a curry now and again. She says that prison staff are suspicious about those practising or converting to the faith and warns that treating Muslim inmates as potential or actual extremists risks radicalising them. The report says: “Many Muslim prisoners stressed the positive and rehabilitative role that Islam played in their lives, and the calm that religious observance could induce in a stressed prison environment. This was in marked contrast to the suspicion that religious observance, and particularly conversion or reversion, tended to produce among staff.” Times is truly becoming a quality toilet paper, with people like poster Bloomdido easily alarmed and looking for excuses to have a go at Muslims. Edited June 8, 2010 by tab1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
azazel666 10 #11 Posted June 8, 2010 "Times is truly becoming a quality toilet paper, with people like poster Bloomdido easily alarmed and looking for excuses to have a go at Muslims." I think it is a little unfair to dismiss this story as a "non-story"...... I don't think that the disproportionate amount of Muslims in the prison population should be dismissed or ignored....it's information that I think we have the right to know. Also it highlights the softer touch people get in prison - and the soft touch that get's even softer on people of different religions - in the "equal" society we live in. A stint in prison should be a stint away from the freedoms of life....people can have their faiths but there is no need to give them special allowances for it....after all no "god" would judge someone who is unable to do a certain thing would they? They are more likely to be judged for the crimes they have already commited surely? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
EbonyBranch 10 #12 Posted June 8, 2010 what are the comparative proportions of christians, etc in prisons against the general population? Viewed in isolation, the comparison for muslims tells us nothing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...