Seat recliners on planes, now (some) airlines take action !

[truman 10]

"A recent survey of 1,000 air travelers by travel search engine Skyscanner showed a whopping 91% would support banning reclining seats on short-distance flights. Some 43% percent even supported a reclining seat ban on long-haul flights."

 

There are none so blind as those who will not see, haven`t I already said that somewhere ?

 

As a percentage of passengers per day how many do you think 1000 is?

[Cyclone 10]

"A recent survey of 1,000 air travelers by travel search engine Skyscanner showed a whopping 91% would support banning reclining seats on short-distance flights. Some 43% percent even supported a reclining seat ban on long-haul flights."

 

There are none so blind as those who will not see, haven`t I already said that somewhere ?

 

You've said a lot of things. It doesn't make them true.

 

Where has this quote come from, is it deliberately unattributed?

[truman 10]

You've said a lot of things. It doesn't make them true.

 

Where has this quote come from, is it deliberately unattributed?

 

Is this it?

 

http://www.skyscanner.net/news/calling-time-reclined-airline-seats

 

Says nothing about the methodology used for the survey...looks like it was done by "Onepoll" ..an online survey company I think...and the report doesn't say people want recliners banned on long haul..just set times when they can't be used..

Edited October 21, 2014 by truman

[barleycorn 10]

"A recent survey of 1,000 air travelers by travel search engine Skyscanner showed a whopping 91% would support banning reclining seats on short-distance flights. Some 43% percent even supported a reclining seat ban on long-haul flights."

 

There are none so blind as those who will not see, haven`t I already said that somewhere ?

 

What was the actual question asked and how was the sample population selected to avoid bias?

 

jb

[Bonzo77 13]

I like the way he describes recliners on here. Also how he mentions knees in the back of seats!

 

http://www.independenttraveler.com/travel-tips/travelers-ed/the-etiquette-of-seat-backs-and-elbow-room

 

If it's just me and Justin who don't like obnoxious recliners, why do these exist?

 

http://www.kneedefender.com/goods/kneedefender.html

 

Take the survey on this website................

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/travelnews/10881437/Legroom-wars-the-device-that-stops-plane-seats-reclining.html

 

Look at the results of the survey on this website......

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/travelnews/10349612/Nine-in-ten-want-reclining-seats-on-planes-banned.html

 

Interesting results on this site. Being polite and not just slamming your seat back because you think you own the space, might get you what you want. Still, 70% of people want reclining seats banning on short flights!

 

http://www.travelunpacked.co.uk/2014/10/01/reclining-seats-survey-results/

Edited October 21, 2014 by Bonzo77

[barleycorn 10]

Is this it?

 

http://www.skyscanner.net/news/calling-time-reclined-airline-seats

 

Says nothing about the methodology used for the survey...looks like it was done by "Onepoll" ..an online survey company I think...and the report doesn't say people want recliners banned on long haul..just set times when they can't be used..

Oh dear

There’s the ‘Altruistic Soul’, who is considerate of others, and the ‘Selfish Ego’. The latter of which will look to increase their comfort at the expense of others.”

Depending on which side of the fence you're on will depend on how you define recliners and non recliners... guess which side Dr. Becky Spelman falls on.

 

jb

Edited October 21, 2014 by barleycorn

[dvp82 10]

Imagine a long haul airline that offers a all non recling seat cabin, this is what people want isn't it. 10hrs with everyone in a upright position sounds like an economy passengers dream and yet airlines are not actually rushing around like headless chickens to install this dream seating configuration, I wonder why.

 

I should start such an airline, infact I could even charge more for the seats, afteral this is what passengers want and I'm sure they would be willing to pay a small premium for it.

Edited October 21, 2014 by dvp82

[Justin Smith 10]

I like the way he describes recliners on here. Also how he mentions knees in the back of seats!

 

http://www.independenttraveler.com/travel-tips/travelers-ed/the-etiquette-of-seat-backs-and-elbow-room

 

If it's just me and Justin who don't like obnoxious recliners, why do these exist?

 

http://www.kneedefender.com/goods/kneedefender.html

 

Take the survey on this website................

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/travelnews/10881437/Legroom-wars-the-device-that-stops-plane-seats-reclining.html

 

Look at the results of the survey on this website......

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/travelnews/10349612/Nine-in-ten-want-reclining-seats-on-planes-banned.html

 

Interesting results on this site. Being polite and not just slamming your seat back because you think you own the space, might get you what you want. Still, 70% of people want reclining seats banning on short flights!

 

http://www.travelunpacked.co.uk/2014/10/01/reclining-seats-survey-results/

 

As I keep saying Bonzo, there really are none so blind as those who just will not see. You and I and most other people know that the great majority of people don`t like having seats reclined into their faces, why would they ? ! ? It really is amusing to see people on here trying to say they really don`t mind it at all.

What question did they ask in the survey ?

What methodology did they use ?

What a load of b*****.

 

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Imagine a long haul airline that offers a all non recling seat cabin, this is what people want isn't it. 10hrs with everyone in a upright position sounds like an economy passengers dream and yet airlines are not actually rushing around like headless chickens to install this dream seating configuration, I wonder why.

 

I should start such an airline, infact I could even charge more for the seats, afteral this is what passengers want and I'm sure they would be willing to pay a small premium for it.

 

I personally wouldn`t want to go as far as banning recline of long haul, but my wife might, she hates recliners even more then I do.

I think airlines should only allow recline (certainly if the passenger behind is unhappy about it) if the cabin lights are down.

[dvp82 10]

I'm sure you know it's quite easy to manipulate a poll to get the results you want.

 

Ask 100 people should recling seats be banned after they have got off a 1hr flight with a seat reclined in front of them will yield a totally different set of results to asking the same 100 people after they have spent 12hrs in the upright position on a overnight flight from Asia.

 

Using the result for the 1hrs flight you may have a headline of 90% of people want recling seat banned in economy. Use the results for the 10hr flight and you may have a headline of 90% of people don't want recling seats banned.

[Bonzo77 13]

I'm sure you know it's quite easy to manipulate a poll to get the results you want.

 

Ask 100 people should recling seats be banned after they have got off a 1hr flight with a seat reclined in front of them will yield a totally different set of results to asking the same 100 people after they have spent 12hrs in the upright position on a overnight flight from Asia.

 

Using the result for the 1hrs flight you may have a headline of 90% of people want recling seat banned in economy. Use the results for the 10hr flight and you may have a headline of 90% of people don't want recling seats banned.

 

First of all, what is recling?

 

Secondly, where does it say that these surveys were done on passengers that have just completed a 1hr flight? I know you don't like the results of these fair online surveys, but they speak for themselves.

[cgksheff 44]

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Edited October 21, 2014 by cgksheff

[dvp82 10]

First of all, what is recling?

 

Secondly, where does it say that these surveys were done on passengers that have just completed a 1hr flight? I know you don't like the results of these fair online surveys, but they speak for themselves.

 

I'm surprised that you would accept the results of what looks like on paper a totally unscientific poll, In my example I'm pointing out that such an unscientific poll can easily be manipulated to get the figures you want. I would take the results of the sky scanner poll with a pinch of salt. This sentence alone in the survey points towards it been a meaningless survey " 91% of people who took part in our survey said short-haul flights should either ban or set times for seat reclining." So how many want a outright ban vs how many just want set times for reclining ?

 

Still stand by my point, if reclining seats is such a big issue for economy passenger why aren't more airlines out there offering non reclining seats. Surely it would be a huge selling point.Easyjet are currently running a TV ad campaign, they are making a big thing about been more punctual than BA, yet nothing about offering non reclining seats which is something BA offer. The way some are making things out to be this surely would be a huge selling point for Easyjet. Yet we get nothing, even on the website there is little to plug the fact they offer this wonderful benefit to it's passengers.

 

In the United States alone there are over 200,000 weekly commercial flights, I bet I could count on one hand the number of air rage incidents taking place weekly over reclining seats. My gut feeling is a lot of these people that moan about people recling seats infont of them would be unwilling to give up there ability to recline.

 

We are both in 2 opposite camps regarding seat reclining and it's something we are never going to agree on. Now until there is an total outright ban on reclining in economy it's just something your just going to have to put up with.

Edited October 22, 2014 by dvp82