swowls   10 #745 Posted December 21, 2017 It might be an urban myth,but they said they could forge an RB211 engine shaft in 45mins on the GFM, whereas it took a full shift on a normal press. Swols. I was given a dressing down by Bill Steele, who was a fiery Glaswegian. All the apprentices were s...scared of him.  The GFM could turn out the RR shaft in about that time. It had to because I dont believe there were any reheat furnace up at GFM just the "donut" heating furnace. The manipulators were fast and perfectly timed to the hammer strokes so it was very efficient. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
PeterR Â Â 10 #746 Posted December 21, 2017 (edited) Yes Peter them water towers were on the cover.answer to your quote 629. Could you please put me this picture on firth browns thread. No Y,04075 its roll grinders shop and you will have walked though this shop in your time. Yours Brian, Thanks. Â http://picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;y04075&pos=1&action=zoom&id=92664 Â Hi Brian, Â No.2 shop, Roll Grinding (pic you asked for above) was next door to my office block at 36 gate. When I was an office junior there in Progress and Planning dpt. fresh from school in Feb. 1959 aged 15 one of my first duties was to mash tea for all the office staff. I was shown where the boiler was in no. 2 shop and mashed in a big teapot almost as big as me with initial guidance from one of the workers in no.2. I was amazed to see the size of the place and the massive rolls. I remember the Inspector in the brown smock below. Don't know his name though... Â http://picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;y04076&pos=170&action=zoom&id=92665 Â Peter. Edited December 21, 2017 by PeterR Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
stpetre   12 #747 Posted December 21, 2017 http://picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;y04075&pos=1&action=zoom&id=92664 Hi Brian,  No.2 shop, Roll Grinding (pic you asked for above) was next door to my office block at 36 gate. When I was an office junior there in Progress and Planning dpt. fresh from school in Feb. 1959 aged 15 one of my first duties was to mash tea for all the office staff. I was shown where the boiler was in no. 2 shop and mashed in a big teapot almost as big as me with initial guidance from one of the workers in no.2. I was amazed to see the size of the place and the massive rolls. I remember the Inspector in the brown smock below. Don't know his name though...  http://picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;y04076&pos=170&action=zoom&id=92665  Peter.  As per photo, what is a 'Steel back up roll' something used within FB's or sold to an outside customer ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
PeterR   10 #748 Posted December 22, 2017 (edited) As per photo, what is a 'Steel back up roll' something used within FB's or sold to an outside customer ?  Hi stpetre,  Firth Brown produced rolls for their own use as well as supplying them to their clients.  When I was a clerk in the Forgings Sales office in the Head Offices on Savile Street East, between 1961 and '64, one of my pals had the same role in Roll Sales office down the corridor.  Below are some info and pics which I feel will answer your questions....  http://www.skf.com/group/industry-solutions/metals/Processes/downsstream/mill-stands/back-up-rolls/index.html  https://www.sheffieldforgemasters.com/engineering/products/back-up-rolls  http://picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;y04112&pos=1&action=zoom&id=93212  http://picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;y04504&pos=1&action=zoom&id=92873  http://picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?&pages=10&searchterms=firth+brown&action=search&keywords=all%3BCONTAINS%3B%25firth%25%3BAND%3Ball%3BCONTAINS%3B%25brown%25%3B&page=22  Peter. Edited December 22, 2017 by PeterR Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
swowls   10 #749 Posted December 22, 2017 We also made highly polished rolls for paper rolling mills in Canada. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melv   16 #750 Posted December 22, 2017 And steel tyres for the trams in Blackpool. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
swowls   10 #751 Posted December 23, 2017 And contracts with British Rail for train tyres.  ---------- Post added 22-12-2017 at 17:52 ----------  Do you remember the tyre drop test outside the tyre mill? it was at the town side of the bridge over Carwood rd. A big old weight and a vertical slide. There was also a lathe in the tyre mill that was like from the late 1800's Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
brian1941   11 #752 Posted December 23, 2017 Hi stpetre, Firth Brown produced rolls for their own use as well as supplying them to their clients.  When I was a clerk in the Forgings Sales office in the Head Offices on Savile Street East, between 1961 and '64, one of my pals had the same role in Roll Sales office down the corridor.  Below are some info and pics which I feel will answer your questions....  http://www.skf.com/group/industry-solutions/metals/Processes/downsstream/mill-stands/back-up-rolls/index.html  https://www.sheffieldforgemasters.com/engineering/products/back-up-rolls  http://picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;y04112&pos=1&action=zoom&id=93212  http://picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;y04504&pos=1&action=zoom&id=92873  http://picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?&pages=10&searchterms=firth+brown&action=search&keywords=all%3BCONTAINS%3B%25firth%25%3BAND%3Ball%3BCONTAINS%3B%25brown%25%3B&page=22  Peter. -------------------------- Hi Peter, Many thanks for all the pictures you have shared on this thread of Firth Browns, thanks for your reply and here is a good one of Roll Hardening Shop No y,04074 if you could put on here please. ------------ My very best wishes to you and your family - good health - for 2018 Yours Brian. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
PeterR Â Â 10 #753 Posted December 23, 2017 -------------------------- Hi Peter, Many thanks for all the pictures you have shared on this thread of Firth Browns, thanks for your reply and here is a good one of Roll Hardening Shop No y,04074 if you could put on here please. ------------ My very best wishes to you and your family - good health - for 2018 Yours Brian. Â Hi Brian, thanks for your kind words. Â Also I return the sentiments to you and your family. Â Here's the pic you requested.... Â http://picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;y04074&pos=1&action=zoom&id=92663 Â Where exactly was the Roll Hardening Shop ?? Â Peter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
swowls   10 #754 Posted December 24, 2017 Hi Brian, thanks for your kind words. Also I return the sentiments to you and your family.  Here's the pic you requested....  http://picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;y04074&pos=1&action=zoom&id=92663  Where exactly was the Roll Hardening Shop ??  Peter. Rolls were hardened in vertical induction furnaces I believe. Wasn't it around the light machine shop area? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melv   16 #755 Posted December 24, 2017 I remember the roll hardening dept was the shop directly above south treatment, going towards town. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
swowls   10 #756 Posted December 24, 2017 I remember the roll hardening dept was the shop directly above south treatment, going towards town.  Didn't those guys and the machine shops have their own maintenance guys? I dont remember having ever done any maintenance in there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...