cloudybay   17 #169 Posted November 5, 2009  Call it what you will, but to most reasonable people your "country sport" is nothing more than an excuse to indulge your blood-lust.  Most 'reasonable people' couldn't give a flying fig about fox hunting as they have more important things to focus their minds on.  As for your blood-lust charge, let's get one thing straight: Humans are nothing more than socialised savages. We are genetically hard-wired to kill, rather like the fox. By denying this simple biological fact, all you are doing is giving succour to those whom believe in nurture over nature. It is only our laws and social conditioning that prevent the majority of us reverting to type. Recent events in Rwanda, Congo and Dafur are proof, if proof were needed, that reverting to type happens to often. As for fox hunting, hunt and be damned. The alternatives are poisoning, trapping, shooting and gassing. If I were fox, I'd be more than happy to take my chances against a pack of hounds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
pem123 Â Â 10 #170 Posted November 5, 2009 Most 'reasonable people' couldn't give a flying fig about fox hunting as they have more important things to focus their minds on. Â Â Interesting point. I remember this one doing the rounds when FH was legal and was in the process of being criminalised. Â Opposition on the grounds that there 'were more important things to worry about'. Mainly from the pro hunting lobby. Â Well surely the same is valid now, probably more so. We're at war, in a recession so why the hell should the government waste time on debating overturning the ban? What's good for the goose and all that... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Berlin   10 #171 Posted November 5, 2009 Most 'reasonable people' couldn't give a flying fig about fox hunting as they have more important things to focus their minds on.  As for your blood-lust charge, let's get one thing straight: Humans are nothing more than socialised savages. We are genetically hard-wired to kill, rather like the fox. By denying this simple biological fact, all you are doing is giving succour to those whom believe in nurture over nature. It is only our laws and social conditioning that prevent the majority of us reverting to type. Recent events in Rwanda, Congo and Dafur are proof, if proof were needed, that reverting to type happens to often. As for fox hunting, hunt and be damned. The alternatives are poisoning, trapping, shooting and gassing. If I were fox, I'd be more than happy to take my chances against a pack of hounds.  We may be socialised savages, but a good many of us are able to control our baser nature. You speak of my giving succour to those who believe in nurture over nature, yet you then go on to state that the majority are prevented from reverting to type by social conditioning. Surely you can see that you have proved that which you set out to disprove? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
RobbyBrown   10 #172 Posted November 5, 2009 With regards Fox Hunting.  How I see it, if the foxes refused to take part then there would be no Fox Hunting.  If I didn't want to play football, then I wouldn't go onto a Football Pitch and take part, can the Foxes not use this logic? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Squiggs   11 #173 Posted November 5, 2009 With regards Fox Hunting. How I see it, if the foxes refused to take part then there would be no Fox Hunting.  If I didn't want to play football, then I wouldn't go onto a Football Pitch and take part, can the Foxes not use this logic?  Have there been documented cases of people's doors being broken down and them dragged out, put in a sack, thrown in the back of the van and dumped on a football field?  No?  Thought not.   There was a nutter who used to follow one of the hunt I regularly "sabbed",l can't remember whether it was the grove & rufford or the belvoir, he insisted on driving around with a sign on the back of his landy stating "If the fox didn't enjoy it he wouldn't join in":loopy: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Sidelock   10 #174 Posted November 5, 2009 Have there been documented cases of people's doors being broken down and them dragged out, put in a sack, thrown in the back of the van and dumped on a football field? No?  Thought not.   There was a nutter who used to follow one of the hunt I regularly "sabbed",l can't remember whether it was the grove & rufford or the belvoir, he insisted on driving around with a sign on the back of his landy stating "If the fox didn't enjoy it he wouldn't join in":loopy: That's the sort of thing I'd have done to wind up the lefty no-hopers who are good enough to get under horses' hooves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
RobbyBrown   10 #175 Posted November 5, 2009 Have there been documented cases of people's doors being broken down and them dragged out, put in a sack, thrown in the back of the van and dumped on a football field? No?  Thought not.   There was a nutter who used to follow one of the hunt I regularly "sabbed",l can't remember whether it was the grove & rufford or the belvoir, he insisted on driving around with a sign on the back of his landy stating "If the fox didn't enjoy it he wouldn't join in":loopy:   Are you a hunt sabboter?  Does that make you as bad as the fox hunters?  The fox gets chased by the hounds, the hounds get chased by the Fox Hunters, the Fox Hunters get chased by the Saboters.  Your all as bad as each other Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
pem123   10 #176 Posted November 5, 2009 Are you a hunt sabboter? Does that make you as bad as the fox hunters?  The fox gets chased by the hounds, the hounds get chased by the Fox Hunters, the Fox Hunters get chased by the Saboters.  Your all as bad as each other  The chasing isn't the bit most people object to though is it. It's the ripping apart by hounds. As far as I know, sabs don't set dogs on the hunters Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Sidelock   10 #177 Posted November 5, 2009 The chasing isn't the bit most people object to though is it. It's the ripping apart by hounds. As far as I know, sabs don't set dogs on the hunters It's only a shame the hounds can't be set on the sabs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
pem123 Â Â 10 #178 Posted November 5, 2009 It's only a shame the hounds can't be set on the sabs. Â Hmm. Which infamous German dictatorship that you like to reference similarly executed people in an inhumane fashion for their opposition beliefs? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Sidelock   10 #179 Posted November 5, 2009 Hmm. Which infamous German dictatorship that you like to reference similarly executed people in an inhumane fashion for their opposition beliefs? Oh dear, you're drama-queening now. Who spoke of execution? I just like the idea of a bunch of unwashed lentil-eaters with nose piercings getting a few good nips from some dogs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
pem123 Â Â 10 #180 Posted November 5, 2009 Oh dear, you're drama-queening now. Who spoke of execution? I just like the idea of a bunch of unwashed lentil-eaters with nose piercings getting a few good nips from some dogs. Â Ah that's ok then. As long as it's just torture based on arbitrary objections to someone's appearence. Â You know that hole you dig deeper with every post....? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
