P3d4nt   10 #373 Posted August 27, 2009 Evidence is what you choose to believe .  ev⋅i⋅dence  [ev-i-duhns] Show IPA noun, verb, -denced, -denc⋅ing. –noun 1. that which tends to prove or disprove something; ground for belief; proof. 2. something that makes plain or clear; an indication or sign: His flushed look was visible evidence of his fever. 3. Law. data presented to a court or jury in proof of the facts in issue and which may include the testimony of witnesses, records, documents, or objects. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Snook   10 #374 Posted August 27, 2009 A pakistani born in England is still a Pakistani.  That makes no sense whatsoever! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
P3d4nt   10 #375 Posted August 27, 2009 A pakistani born in England is still a Pakistani.  So presumably we should all class ourselves as Romans or Angles or Saxons then rather than Brits? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Nocterneil   10 #376 Posted August 27, 2009 I have reached the conclusion that the world is an enigma. A harmless enigma made terrible only by our our own mad attempts to interpret it as though it has some underlying truth. .....such is the nature of religion! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Wildcat   10 #377 Posted August 27, 2009 (edited) A pakistani born in England is still a Pakistani.  You are talking about race or ethnicity not Nationality.  It is Nationality that entitles someone to say this is their country. Edited August 27, 2009 by Wildcat Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Nocterneil   10 #378 Posted August 27, 2009 An Englishman born in England is an Englishman. A Pakistani born in England is a Muslim. That is where the problem starts. Traditional English are tied by nation, traditional Pakistanis are tied by religion. Different culture. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mindfields   10 #379 Posted August 27, 2009 (edited) That makes no sense whatsoever!  Yes it does, if my English mum and dad had had me in Pakistan would i be a Pakistani?!  A man and a woman, both English, conceiving a Pakistani child!! what a bizzare notion. Edited August 27, 2009 by Mindfields Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
TeaFan   10 #380 Posted August 27, 2009 Nocterneil, you still haven't answered my question about the BNP's GLA member Richard Barnbrook. In lying to his constituents, admitting he lied but defending his lying, did he display an honest attitude? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Wildcat   10 #381 Posted August 27, 2009 Yes it does, if my English mum and dad had had me in Pakistan would i be a Pakistani?! A man and a woman, both English, conceiving a Pakistani child!! what a bizzare notion.  It depends what it says on your passport.  If you get a British passport because of your parents then you are British, if you don't and you get a Pakistani passport then you are a Pakistani.  It really is that simple. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
TeaFan   10 #382 Posted August 27, 2009 Yes it does, if my English mum and dad had had me in Pakistan would i be a Pakistani?! A man and a woman, both English, conceiving a Pakistani child!! what a bizzare notion.  If you were in power, what would you do with the British-born children of Pakistani parents? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Nocterneil   10 #383 Posted August 27, 2009 Nocterneil, you still haven't answered my question about the BNP's GLA member Richard Barnbrook. In lying to his constituents, admitting he lied but defending his lying, did he display an honest attitude?  ERM OK. Do not worry any longer about it, take your pills and go to bed. You will have forgotten about it tomorrow! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
P3d4nt   10 #384 Posted August 27, 2009 Yes it does, if my English mum and dad had had me in Pakistan would i be a Pakistani?! A man and a woman, both English, conceiving a Pakistani child!! what a bizzare notion.  Thats only because different countries have different laws of citizenship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...