Men only shortlists for jobs - time for these?

[Kthebean]

Generally the only jobs you tend to find white men underrepresented in are crappy low paid ones. If you can think of an example that isn't for me, please let me know.

[Kthebean]

Actually i do think that initiatives to get more men into teaching would be a brilliant idea.

 

Sadly fellas perhaps you will learn what women learnt decades ago which is you have to organise campaign and fight for your rights, not just whinge about them on forum message boards

[rad]

Fogey: I believe there have been efforts in the past (I don't know about now) to recruit more men into teaching etc.

[olorin]

Never going to happen while the general population is so caught up in the "all men working with kids are filthy perverted paedophiles" mentality.

[boyfriday]

How come there never seem to be initiatives to encourage white men into job roles where they are under represented? If women or people from an ethnic background can bring massive benefits to white male dominated sectors can't white men do likewise for areas generally populated by other demographics? Perhaps the reason that our children are growing up miserable according to European reports is because there aren't enough men in early school situations.

 

Hundreds of men sought for primary school posts (Independent April 2002)

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/education/education-news/hundreds-of-men-sought-for-primary-school-posts-657853.html

[craigb]

Never going to happen while the general population is so caught up in the "all men working with kids are filthy perverted paedophiles" mentality.

 

Exactly.

 

When I was at school I was considering teaching, and even did a one-week work experience with a friend's mum who was a teacher at an infant school.

 

I really enjoyed it, and the school was really eager to encourage me as a guy to follow it up and get into teaching (every teacher at the school was a woman if I remember rightly), but the general perception of men who teach as "weird, dirty pedos" and all the scare stories really put me off, and I went a different way.

 

A real shame, but ignorance often breeds ignorance.

[Fogey]

Generally the only jobs you tend to find white men underrepresented in are crappy low paid ones. If you can think of an example that isn't for me, please let me know.

 

But isn't it also true that the jobs you tend to find women with families in are those with flexible enough working conditions to allow them to juggle work and family life.

 

Don't assume that just because a job's take home pay is above average that the working conditions are wonderful or what you would want. I spoke to someone in Architecture last year who had been on a seemingly good salary for a while but when you set that against the hours he regularly had to work he was on less than minimum wage. Solicitors and some doctors can also work horrendous hours for the sake of their massive pay. Their is also an issue of pressure and responsibility which influence the pay.

 

If an organisation can be forced to provide better or more flexible working conditions for the sake of attracting more women then is it not reasonable for those sectors where men are under represented to offer those things that would attract men? - better salaries or perhaps a promise to discriminate in favour of men over women to obtain a balance reflecting of the general population.

[Schiann]

As a woman, I want TRUE fairness in the workplace, which means complete disregard for anything other than my skills and qualifications.

[EmilyM]

Never going to happen while the general population is so caught up in the "all men working with kids are filthy perverted paedophiles" mentality.

 

The recent news stories show that it isn't just men who are paedophiles.