The new Islam megathread part 3

[boyfriday]

You are completely and utterly wrong. Terrorist atrocities committed in the name of Islam are very different from Irish Republican/Ulster Loyalist terrorist attacks. There is one single, very important reason for this - Northern Ireland atrocities were NOT carried out in the name of religion, but to achieve political objectives. Even my 13 year old daughter studying The Troubles in school is aware of this. For some reason you don't seem to be.

 

Can you argue that the people of Ireland weren't divided along sectarian lines?

 

This ultimately manifested itself politically, but the argument was one about the oppression of Catholics which had been going on since the 16th century and their reaction to it.

[A4e Client]

Can you argue that the people of Ireland weren't divided along sectarian lines?

 

This ultimately manifested itself politically, but the argument was one about the oppression of Catholics which had been going on since the 16th century and their reaction to it.

 

Berlin was saying that Northern Ireland terrorism was carried out in the name of religion (Christianity) the same way 9/11 and 7/7 were carried out in the name of Islam. Berlin was wrong and made to look foolish. We were not talking about sectarianism. Ooh-la-la!

[Thebanginman]

So a discussion on theology of Abrahamic religions means one replacing the other in your book Thebanginman? A discussion is for understanding perspectives but can't see anything of the sort here, with people all too eager to tell us what they think.

How many people expressing their views one way or the other have actually read any religious books in search for understanding that religion and how many have stayed the course and claim to have understood what message?

 

How many of you can distinguish cultural practices from the religious requirements, and how many confuse one for the other about any of the three Abrahamic religions?

 

The question here is what does the word Islam mean? Not what it means to you, but the meaning of the Arabic word used by the people who spoke that language.

So enlighten us oh wise one try answering the question regarding Islam and the jewish posted earlier and lets take it from there..I am eager to learn.

You posted a challenge I accepted without resorting to any kind of evasion ..The stage is yours..I have nothing to hide about my beliefs..have you?

[Thebanginman]

Can you argue that the people of Ireland weren't divided along sectarian lines?

 

This ultimately manifested itself politically, but the argument was one about the oppression of Catholics which had been going on since the 16th century and their reaction to it.

I dont believe the Irish are practising muslims please keep on topic if not for me, for tab1 Im just responding to his challenge and would hate to see him disappointed by people straying off topic..thank you

[Berlin]

Berlin was saying that Northern Ireland terrorism was carried out in the name of religion (Christianity) the same way 9/11 and 7/7 were carried out in the name of Islam. Berlin was wrong and made to look foolish. We were not talking about sectarianism. Ooh-la-la!

 

Quite a lot of Northern Irish terrorists used religion as an excuse for killing. Some victims were killed solely because of their religion.

 

I did not mention 9/11 or 7/7.

 

What I said was this;

 

Its not so very long ago that Christians were doing the same thing in Northern Ireland. Does that make Christianity the same as Islam?

 

in reply to this;

 

 

I think the poster was trying to say that the media often interview members of the muslim faith who say that their religion is peaceful while also reporting on atrocities committed in the name of islam

[Berlin]

I dont believe the Irish are practising muslims please keep on topic if not for me, for tab1 Im just responding to his challenge and would hate to see him disappointed by people straying off topic..thank you

 

Some Irish people are indeed practising Muslims.

[kipper]

No one religion, ideology or theocracy can be the way forward. As people are a mixed bag it all depends on their psychological state with the first level to secure food and water the next to be safe. Intellect and harmony only transpires once you have secured these basic levels with 95% of the worlds population still in the first two.

[Thebanginman]

Some Irish people are indeed practising Muslims.

And I think the ones you and the others are on about are Catholics or protestants ,so please keep the posts on topic.I would hate to see it closed before tab1 et al has the chance to reply.

[tab1]

Most have had the bible bashed into us at an early age, your point being, we have google at our fingertips, unless of course you are now going to claim that we can't understand because we don't speak arabic,

Here you go for those who can't be bothered,

 

http://www.barghouti.com/islam/meaning.html

 

now tell us o wise one what have we missed that the muslim faith has to offer.

Well done retep, now pat yourself on the back and go sleep in the corner old man. A has been like you being able to use Google, well that is a surprise, now a bigger surprise would be if you understood what you managed to find.

Since you feel you already know there is to know about Islam and seem sure you know what I’ll be posting next, then hardly any point for you to continue here then is there. Is there any chance you may leave this thread alone to continue with civility?

[Plain Talker]

Wouldn't Muslims stop pretty girls wearing short skirts and stop us eating pork if they had their way?

 

*thinks* (Bold)I can see that'd be a disadvantage to you, seeing as it's the nearest you'd get to the pretty ladies...

 

(nonbold) No, *Incredulous expression* why would we stop folk eating pork? We just would not (generally) eat it ourselves.

 

I'm a vegetarian, but I don't stop other people from eating meat, if they so wish.

 

Doesn't the Bible say you cannot wear mixed fabrics on certain days, punishable by death!

 

Not quite.The wearing of mixed fibres is certainly forbidden, in the Bible, but not on certain days:- it's all the time.