BNP Megathread (23-05-2009 to 29-06-2009)

[Thebanginman]

Whats the point, as soon as the truth enters the subject the thread gets pulled.

May as well let the anti BNP ,Pc brigade and apologists just use it to vent their spleen....Just carry on with your delusions of racism...the field is yours

[boyfriday]

ey up, t'lads are back from cross burnin

[Thebanginman]

ey up, t'lads are back from cross burnin

As predicted...sigh

[wednesday1]

Here is an opinion poll from today' Guardian.It show's the nazis on just 1%, with UKIP on 10%.Sadly nice pie chart didn't transfer.

 

 

Quarter of voters set to reject main parties at EU elections, poll showsGuardian/ICM survey finds 27% planning to support a minority party on 4 June

Buzz up!

Digg it

Tom Clark guardian.co.uk, Friday 22 May 2009 15.12 BST Article history

Guardian/ICM poll on EU elections. Graphic: Paddy Allen

 

More than a quarter of voters are planning to reject the Westminster establishment in next month's European elections, according to a new Guardian/ICM poll carried out in the aftermath of the MPs' expenses scandal.

 

It finds that some 27% of voters are already planning to support a minority party. The poll also uncovered evidence that more could soon join them.

 

The results follow two weeks in which Labour, the Tories and the Liberal Democrats have been battered by the press and public over the publication of MPs' expenses.

 

Contrary to some predictions, however, the poll suggests that it is the Greens and the UK Independence party (Ukip) who are making the running on the political fringes, as opposed to the British National party.

 

The Greens are set to take 9% of the total vote, while Ukip is on 10%, leaving the BNP way behind on just 1% – considerably down on the 5% the far-right party achieved at the last European elections in 2004.

 

Such a result would be a huge disappointment to the xenophobic BNP, which has been trying to exploit resentment over MPs' expenses to win its first seats in the European parliament. But fear of appearing racist may make people reluctant to own up to BNP support, and so the party could still end doing considerably better than the new poll suggests.

 

Ukip's standing is also somewhat lower than its 16% vote share in 2004, but is impressive given the party has been beset by infighting and a low profile during recent years. The Greens' 9% share is three points up on their performance last time and suggests that the party could be set for its best performance since it took 15% of the poll in the 1989 European elections, towards the end of Margaret Thatcher's time in office.

 

Among the big parties, the Liberal Democrats are on 18% with the Conservatives set to take 30%. That is three points up on the Tories' performance in the 2004 Euro elections, but well below the party's standing in Westminster polls at the moment, which is around 40%.

 

There may be some relief in Labour circles that – while dreadful – its 24% share of the vote is no worse than the 23% that it took in 2004. The party's high command had started to fear it could slip below the psychologically important 20% threshold, a rout which some are suggesting would trigger a challenge to Gordon Brown.

 

Turnout is all-important because a very large proportion of voters traditionally fail to show up in European elections, but ICM has adjusted the results to take account of how likely individuals say they are to vote. And refining the way that adjustment is made does not much affect the results.

 

There are, however, clear signs that support for the fringe parties may grow further between now and polling day, something that could cost Labour dear. Asked whether they will vote on domestic or European issues, voters seem more than ready to regard the elections as a chance to pass a verdict on Westminster.

 

Some 63% say they will vote "mostly" or "entirely" on domestic issues, nearly three times as many as the 22% who indicate that Europe will be their chief concern.

 

This suggests relatively few voters see the European elections as important in their own right. As the election gets closer, and voters begin to give it some thought, many more might thus tempted to cast a vote against Britain's political establishment.

 

• ICM interviewed a random sample of 1,010 adults aged 18+ by telephone between 20 and 21 May 2009. Interviews were conducted across the country and the results have been weighted to the profile of all adults. Percentages may not add to 100 because of rounding. ICM is a member of the British Polling Council and abides by its rules. Further information at http://www.icmresearch.co.uk

[Thebanginman]

Here is an opinion poll from today' Guardian.It show's the nazis on just 1%, with UKIP on 10%.Sadly nice pie chart didn't transfer.

 

 

Quarter of voters set to reject main parties at EU elections, poll showsGuardian/ICM survey finds 27% planning to support a minority party on 4 June

Buzz up!

Digg it

Tom Clark guardian.co.uk, Friday 22 May 2009 15.12 BST Article history

Guardian/ICM poll on EU elections. Graphic: Paddy Allen

 

More than a quarter of voters are planning to reject the Westminster establishment in next month's European elections, according to a new Guardian/ICM poll carried out in the aftermath of the MPs' expenses scandal.

 

It finds that some 27% of voters are already planning to support a minority party. The poll also uncovered evidence that more could soon join them.

 

The results follow two weeks in which Labour, the Tories and the Liberal Democrats have been battered by the press and public over the publication of MPs' expenses.

 

Contrary to some predictions, however, the poll suggests that it is the Greens and the UK Independence party (Ukip) who are making the running on the political fringes, as opposed to the British National party.

 

The Greens are set to take 9% of the total vote, while Ukip is on 10%, leaving the BNP way behind on just 1% – considerably down on the 5% the far-right party achieved at the last European elections in 2004.

 

Such a result would be a huge disappointment to the xenophobic BNP, which has been trying to exploit resentment over MPs' expenses to win its first seats in the European parliament. But fear of appearing racist may make people reluctant to own up to BNP support, and so the party could still end doing considerably better than the new poll suggests.

 

Ukip's standing is also somewhat lower than its 16% vote share in 2004, but is impressive given the party has been beset by infighting and a low profile during recent years. The Greens' 9% share is three points up on their performance last time and suggests that the party could be set for its best performance since it took 15% of the poll in the 1989 European elections, towards the end of Margaret Thatcher's time in office.

 

Among the big parties, the Liberal Democrats are on 18% with the Conservatives set to take 30%. That is three points up on the Tories' performance in the 2004 Euro elections, but well below the party's standing in Westminster polls at the moment, which is around 40%.

 

There may be some relief in Labour circles that – while dreadful – its 24% share of the vote is no worse than the 23% that it took in 2004. The party's high command had started to fear it could slip below the psychologically important 20% threshold, a rout which some are suggesting would trigger a challenge to Gordon Brown.

 

Turnout is all-important because a very large proportion of voters traditionally fail to show up in European elections, but ICM has adjusted the results to take account of how likely individuals say they are to vote. And refining the way that adjustment is made does not much affect the results.

 

There are, however, clear signs that support for the fringe parties may grow further between now and polling day, something that could cost Labour dear. Asked whether they will vote on domestic or European issues, voters seem more than ready to regard the elections as a chance to pass a verdict on Westminster.

 

Some 63% say they will vote "mostly" or "entirely" on domestic issues, nearly three times as many as the 22% who indicate that Europe will be their chief concern.

 

This suggests relatively few voters see the European elections as important in their own right. As the election gets closer, and voters begin to give it some thought, many more might thus tempted to cast a vote against Britain's political establishment.

 

• ICM interviewed a random sample of 1,010 adults aged 18+ by telephone between 20 and 21 May 2009. Interviews were conducted across the country and the results have been weighted to the profile of all adults. Percentages may not add to 100 because of rounding. ICM is a member of the British Polling Council and abides by its rules. Further information at http://www.icmresearch.co.uk

Sadly you know as much about nazis as Wednesday knows about playing football

[wednesday1]

Sadly you know as much about nazis as Wednesday knows about playing football

 

 

Feeling a depressed are we Banginman? aw bless.

[boyfriday]

As predicted...sigh

 

I have a new theory....the sense of humour quotient is inversely proportional to the probability of someone supporting the BNP..now that wasn't predictable, was it??

[bizzle]

ey up, t'lads are back from cross burnin

 

that is well funny

[JFKvsNixon]

ey up, t'lads are back from cross burnin

 

Keeping those pointy hats pristine white isn't easy you know.

[metaphoria]

Having had my attention brought to a certain journalist called Charlie Brooker from a previous thread discussion, I came across a certain article that I found quite funny and true, related to the BNP discussion.

 

Quote:

The other day, the BNP had a political broadcast on the box. I wasn't in my beloved homeland at the time, but I heard about it, via internet chuckles of derision. Fellow geeky types tweeting about the poor production values. I looked it up on YouTube. Sure enough, it was badly made. No surprise there. Extremist material of any kind always looks gaudy and cheap, like a bad pizza menu. Not because they can't afford decent computers - these days you can knock up a professional CD cover on a pay-as-you-go mobile - but because anyone who's good at graphic design is likely to be a thoughtful, inquisitive sort by nature. And thoughtful, inquisitive sorts tend to think fascism is a bit ****, to be honest. If the BNP really were the greatest British party, they'd have the greatest British designer working for them - Jonathan Ive, perhaps, the man who designed the iPod. But they don't. They've got someone who tries to stab your eyes out with primary colours.

 

From: The BNP represents Britain's workers? They don't even represent basic British craftsmanship

 

Well, I've had a couple of BNP leaflets through the latterbox of late, and I have to say, they do look a bit like a takeaway flyer, at a glance.

 

In one of them that I've (half-read) there's a few examples of what I'd guess to be common views from stereotypical characters, one being a doctor who is stating something about a stop to health tourism and something about fair pay to British nurses. I couldn't help but think about the multicultural environment of workers in the NHS, and how many would actually be considering that the BNP could make things any better.

 

Addy: Personally I think it's a damn cheek, considering that many international doctors and nurses are working, and I would much rather vote for a party who is more interested in encouraging modern-day British citizens to spend as much time contributing to the tax/national insurance system (i.e working), as they do breeding.