Countries back pedalling on the smoking ban.

[Hallamton 10]

Does this sound like backpedaling on the smoking ban?

 

Marriot Hotels voluntarily imposeda total ban on smoking ANYWHERE in its US hotels.

 

Marriott International, Inc. (NYSE: MAR) announced today that all of the Company’s lodging brands in the United States and Canada will become 100 percent smoke-free, beginning in September. This represents the industry’s largest move to a non-smoking environment, with more than 2,300 hotels and corporate apartments and nearly 400,000 guest rooms under the Marriott, JW Marriott, The Ritz-Carlton, Renaissance, Courtyard, Residence Inn, SpringHill Suites, Fairfield Inn, TownePlace Suites and Marriott ExecuStay brands.

 

 

“Creating a smoke-free environment demonstrates a new level of service and care for our guests and associates,” said J.W. Marriott, Jr., chairman and chief executive officer of Marriott International. “Our family of brands is united on this important health issue and we anticipate very positive customer feedback.”

 

The new policy includes all guest rooms, restaurants, lounges, meeting rooms, public space and employee work areas. Currently more than 90 percent of Marriott guest rooms are already non-smoking and smoking is prohibited in many public spaces due to local laws. Demand for non-smoking rooms continues to rise with new information from the Surgeon General on the hazards of secondary smoke.

 

How old is that article?

 

America brought in non-smoking policy before the UK and the UK has banned all smoking in hotels since the start of the ban (with the exception of staff living quarters).

 

So no, it doesn't sound like backpedalling. It just sounds like an outdated quote.

[Scabbydog 10]

How old is that article?

 

America brought in non-smoking policy before the UK and the UK has banned all smoking in hotels since the start of the ban (with the exception of staff living quarters).

 

So no, it doesn't sound like backpedalling. It just sounds like an outdated quote.

 

You are posting utter crap.

 

FACT. IT IS NOT ILLEGAL TO SMOKE IN A HOTEL BEDROOM.

 

http://www.hotelsmoking.co.uk/

 

hotels with smoking rooms in England - smoking hotels in Wales- and hotels where you can smoke in Scotland and in Northern Ireland

 

 

We are not asking you to take up smoking - but it is your choice - but with the smoking ban in the UK in force we are collecting together the details of the hotels in Britain that have facilities for smokers. Note it is not illegal to smoke in hotel bedrooms - just make sure you have a designated smoking room !.

 

 

Regarding the Marriott quote. It was to show that Marriott had imposed a ban on smoking in all its rooms in all its hotels. It didn't have to. It chose to.

 

It is becoming increasingly difficult to find hotels that allow smoking in their rooms. They would rather not cater for smokers than have a room that stunk to high heaven until it could be fumigated.

Edited March 9, 2009 by Scabbydog

[Cyclone 10]

its lovely abroad being able to have a cig with your meal or drink .

For you, not for anyone sat near you.

also you dont see the non smokers complaining or staying away because of smokers .

You don't see them precisely because they've stayed away.

im afraid this government will learn the hard way with this stupid ban .

 

 

also ,how can the government ban something which are perfectly legal to buy ?

 

What a stupid comment.

It's perfectly legal to buy a firearm, it's not legal to shoot it in a pub. It's legal to buy a chain saw, but running it in your local would probably be frowned on.

Many many things are permissible in certain circumstances and not in others.

[Cyclone 10]

On an extra note, I don't smoke.

 

And I'm not calling you selfish, but I could call you other things if you think any smoker is FORCING others to breathe in smoke. As already said, the negative affects of smoking have been made known since the 60s so any none smoker should already know they are inhaling poisonous fumes and while drinking their poison and has the choice to do it somewhere else.

 

 

Now it's smokers who have a choice of doing it elsewhere, or not doing it if they want a drink.

Someones right to not be poisoned outweighs someone elses right to indulge an addiction.

[mossdog 10]

The government haven't taken the freedom of choice from anyone. You are still free to smoke, it is just not where it will effect others. If you want to smoke you can go outside and smoke, if you need a pee you go to the toilets.

 

The smoking ban was not rushed through. It was a carefully considered bill taking into accout reports from health authorities whose studies suggested it would save around 40,000 lives annually.

 

Call me sellfish if you like but I think saving 40,000 lives is more important than your supposed right to force others to breathe your poisons.

Errr! when has this stupid government carefully considered anything (apart from hiding their expenses and upping their pensions) the dithering laws on drug classification springs to mind if you want to bang on about loss of lives! Edited March 9, 2009 by mossdog

[anarchist 10]

Countries back pedaling on the smoking ban.

 

I think not. At the last count around 85 countries have imposed a smoking ban of some sort or another.

 

The list grows monthly.

 

A to Z of smoking bans.

 

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In Australia smoking bans are determined on a state-by-state basis. In chronological order by state:

 

South Australia: Smoking prohibited in all indoor dining areas since January 1999. Total enclosed public place smoking ban in force since November 2007

 

Western Australia: Incremental restrictions introduced from January 2005 with a total ban on smoking in all enclosed public spaces taking effect from July 2006

 

Tasmania: Total indoor smoking ban in force since January 2006[citation needed]. From January 2008 the ban was extended to include smoking in cars with passengers under the age of 18

 

Queensland: Comprehensive ban in effect since July 2006. Smoking is prohibited in all pubs, clubs, restaurants and workplaces, commercial outdoor eating and drinking areas, outdoor public places, and within 4 meters of non-residential building entrances.

 

Australian Capital Territory: A ban on smoking in enclosed public places has been in effect since December 2006

 

Victoria: : A ban on smoking in enclosed public places has been in effect since July 2007

 

New South Wales: A ban on smoking in all enclosed areas of restaurants, licensed clubs and pubs came into force in July 2007. In July 2008 the government announced plans to introduce new legislation that will prohibit smoking in private cars that carry children less than 16 years old.

 

Northern Territory: The Territory government has announced its long awaited timeframe for banning smoking inside clubs and pubs, saying new restrictions will come into place from the start of 2010.

 

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Smoking is prohibited in public places in Zambia and is punishable by a fine of K400,000 or imprisonment of up to two years

 

Come on.. When smoking is banned in public places in ZAMBIA. You can't seriously think that the UK is about to backpedal on its' ban..:loopy:

[mossdog 10]

Countries back pedaling on the smoking ban.

 

I think not. At the last count around 85 countries have imposed a smoking ban of some sort or another.

 

The list grows monthly.

 

A to Z of smoking bans.

 

A

 

In Australia smoking bans are determined on a state-by-state basis. In chronological order by state:

 

South Australia: Smoking prohibited in all indoor dining areas since January 1999. Total enclosed public place smoking ban in force since November 2007

 

Western Australia: Incremental restrictions introduced from January 2005 with a total ban on smoking in all enclosed public spaces taking effect from July 2006

 

Tasmania: Total indoor smoking ban in force since January 2006[citation needed]. From January 2008 the ban was extended to include smoking in cars with passengers under the age of 18

 

Queensland: Comprehensive ban in effect since July 2006. Smoking is prohibited in all pubs, clubs, restaurants and workplaces, commercial outdoor eating and drinking areas, outdoor public places, and within 4 meters of non-residential building entrances.

 

Australian Capital Territory: A ban on smoking in enclosed public places has been in effect since December 2006

 

Victoria: : A ban on smoking in enclosed public places has been in effect since July 2007

 

New South Wales: A ban on smoking in all enclosed areas of restaurants, licensed clubs and pubs came into force in July 2007. In July 2008 the government announced plans to introduce new legislation that will prohibit smoking in private cars that carry children less than 16 years old.

 

Northern Territory: The Territory government has announced its long awaited timeframe for banning smoking inside clubs and pubs, saying new restrictions will come into place from the start of 2010.

 

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Smoking is prohibited in public places in Zambia and is punishable by a fine of K400,000 or imprisonment of up to two years

 

Come on.. When smoking is banned in public places in ZAMBIA. You can't seriously think that the UK is about to backpedal on its' ban..:loopy:

I think I would pay the K400,000 fine.....( £1.60) sooner than go to jail! Lets face it Mugabe and chohorts would fit nicely with the Parcel of Rogues in charge here. Edited March 10, 2009 by mossdog

[Cyclone 10]

Mugabe would be in Zimbabwe, not Zambia.

[whitewitch 10]

I think they should have given people a choice, maybe a sort of traffic light system. Have a red coloured notice outside to let people know its a non smoking pub, an amber coloured notice to let people know there is a seperate room and a green coloured notice to let people know its a smoking pub.

[mossdog 10]

Mugabe would be in Zimbabwe, not Zambia.

Of course! but the same difference really!

[chem1st 10]

Now it's smokers who have a choice of doing it elsewhere, or not doing it if they want a drink.

Someones right to not be poisoned outweighs someone elses right to indulge an addiction.

 

Why not allow a people to open up smoking pubs?

 

I would love to open up a pub/restaurant/cafe.

 

To provide people a place to smoke, eat and drink, with live entertainment and dedicated rooms.

A games room (card/boardgames etc.), lounge, dining area and an area for music/screening sport.

 

It's got to the point where we might aswell allow monopoly venues which we'll probably end up with in a few years, providing the same thing twice for smoking/non smoking, or maybe quadruple if they introduced alcohol/alcohol free areas.

 

An example would be the bankers draft pub in town. The pub could easily be split into two venues whilst remaining essentially as one (Airtight venues wrt each other). Non smoking downstairs, smoking upstairs. (Block of the inside stairs)

Instead of the upstairs/downstairs choice, one could pick based upon smoking policy. One is free to enter and leave the other section, although one needs not enter the smoking/nonsmoking section.

[foxy lady 10]

Why not allow a people to open up smoking pubs?

 

I would love to open up a pub/restaurant/cafe.

 

To provide people a place to smoke, eat and drink, with live entertainment and dedicated rooms.

A games room (card/boardgames etc.), lounge, dining area and an area for music/screening sport.

 

It's got to the point where we might aswell allow monopoly venues which we'll probably end up with in a few years, providing the same thing twice for smoking/non smoking, or maybe quadruple if they introduced alcohol/alcohol free areas.

 

An example would be the bankers draft pub in town. The pub could easily be split into two venues whilst remaining essentially as one (Airtight venues wrt each other). Non smoking downstairs, smoking upstairs. (Block of the inside stairs)

Instead of the upstairs/downstairs choice, one could pick based upon smoking policy. One is free to enter and leave the other section, although one needs not enter the smoking/nonsmoking section.

 

 

Why not simply ban smoking from all the indoor areas and allow smoking outside where the smoke won't affect anyone's health. That sounds like a sensible suggestion to me.