Lapatnicks and Patnicks in Sheffield from 1890

[sadbrewer 20]

1 hour ago, hillsbro said:

That’s very interesting, sadbrewer. Many older Sheffield people will remember Aaron Michael Patnick (father of Irvine, Philip and Edward) who had the junk shop on Langsett Road. Here is his family’s page from the 1911 census. I remember Irvine saying that the family surname was originally Lapatnick, and they were presumably related to the other Lapatnicks. However - just to confuse matters further regarding the spelling of the surname - Aaron Michael Patnick was born on 21 October 1897, and in the G.R.O. birth record (inset) his surname is given as LAPATNIC! The “La-“ prefix was evidently abandoned soon afterwards, because when Harry and Esther’s next child, Israel, was born in 1899 his surname was registered as Patnick.

 

 

Hillsbro....could I ask what you are using to post the pics?.... as my photobucket account doesn't seem to work anymore, and I've turned up a good piece I'd like to post.

Edited January 11, 2021 by sadbrewer

[hillsbro 32]

12 minutes ago, sadbrewer said:

Hillsbro....could I ask what you are using to post the pics?.... as my photobucket account doesn't seem to work anymore, and I've turned up a good piece I'd like to post.

I also used Photobucket until they began to charge a subscription! Nowadays I use Postimage -  https://postimages.org/     There is also ImgBB - https://imgbb.com/

[sadbrewer 20]

15 hours ago, hillsbro said:

I also used Photobucket until they began to charge a subscription! Nowadays I use Postimage -  https://postimages.org/     There is also ImgBB - https://imgbb.com/

Thanks....this should be interesting.

 

 

 

It appears to have been syndicated in the US papers, unfortunately I don't have the international subscription to view them.

 

 

 

 

 

On 10/01/2021 at 14:05, HisOnlyStar said:

Ok. I'm asking someone if they can show me again. It's years since I saw. My dad had original documents at one time.  I was sure I recall it said Patnick. 🙂 'La' is not very Russian sounding at all. I have always known them to be the Patnicks. My grandma was Hetty.

I think the confusion could be in the translation....the La prefix sounds French rather than Russian, but the family's name would originally have been written in the Russian cyrilic alphabet and Lapatnick was likely the closest English spelling that matched the spoken word. Even in english this was an issue, my own Grandmothers surname of Jewsbury was spelt Juesbury, Joesbury, Jewsbery, Dewsbury and even Gooseberry.

Edited January 11, 2021 by sadbrewer

[hillsbro 32]

Hi sadbrewer - it's interesting to see the article from the "Sheffield Daily Independent" of 1923. I have downloaded the rest of the article from the British Newspaper Archive and will work on it with Photoshop. I found this  shorter one in the "Dundee Evening Telegraph" of 4 September 1923.I also wondered about the name Lapatnick being an adaptation of a Russian surname. The common Jewish forename Hyman is itself from the Russian  "Хаим" or "Chaim". Also, the Russian ending -ник or -nik  often refers to a person's characteristics or profession (cf. "refusenik" etc.) and in Russian word "лопáтник" (pronounced "lapatnik") means someone who makes or deals in spades or shovels - from the word "лопáта" meaning "shovel". Perhaps this was the profession of the original Lapatnicks?

[HisOnlyStar 0]

Thank you So much to everyone who has posted here since I bumped this old thread the other day!

 

Yes I was very confused about the American connection but you are all correct and I was wrong! They are my ancestors! I wish I could find out more about what happened to them afterwards...

 

Thank you to the people who posted info and explanations and newspaper clippings! 

 

There's some documents here I just uploaded 

 

http://imgur.com/gallery/OfBXUqr

[sadbrewer 20]

3 hours ago, HisOnlyStar said:

Thank you So much to everyone who has posted here since I bumped this old thread the other day!

 

Yes I was very confused about the American connection but you are all correct and I was wrong! They are my ancestors! I wish I could find out more about what happened to them afterwards...

 

Thank you to the people who posted info and explanations and newspaper clippings! 

 

There's some documents here I just uploaded 

 

http://imgur.com/gallery/OfBXUqr

Hi HoS...pleased you've  got your head around it...links below may well be of interest.

http://www.witness.group.shef.ac.uk/interview-edward-patnick/

 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Confessions-Junk-Dealer-Edward-Patnick/dp/1907998136

 

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://kehillatkernow.com/newsletter/Kol-Kehillat-Kernow-09-08.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiJ5cqgk6buAhUkQkEAHT0XBX04KBAWMAl6BAgCEAE&usg=AOvVaw0JA19Nggt72oicDcK57n8_

 

 

   If you're interested in finding out what happened to them afterwards... you have a good chance through Ancestry. I've had a look and there are a few people with Lapatnick/Patnik's in their tree, UK, USA and Australia. ..some of them have information on the family prior to coming to the UK....the only snag being that most of the tree owners haven't been on since early last year. Unfortunately I dont have the international subscription required to view the records.

You could also try FB...I think this lady in the US was married to Leonard Lapatnick, descended from Hyman Michael.

https://m.facebook.com/lapatnick

Edited January 18, 2021 by sadbrewer

[Diane Major 0]

I came across this site searching my family history.  My grandmother was Minnie LaPatnick daughter of Hyman. They migrated to Philadelphia PA were they are buried  now 

[hillsbro 32]

Hi Diane Major - welcome to the Forum! As it happens I was just researching  migration records and found Dora, Leah, Minnie and Abraham. Here is what I found for Minnie, who evidently sailed on the American Line steamer SS Haverford in 1920.

 

[Diane Major 0]

Thank you so much for this information.  I have trying for many years to find out Hyman’s first wife Sara’s surname.  She was my great grand mother she past away in England  

[Diane Major 0]

There were never any pictures of Sara #1 or information.  My grandmother was young and by then he remarried another Sara.  I’ve always been curious about her 

[hillsbro 32]

Hi Diane Major - I checked the births index for Minnie, and her mother's maiden name is given as Lapatnick. In the marriages index there is an entry for a Markel Lapatnick who married a Sarah Lapatnick in Sheffield in 1895. In 1911, Hyman and Sarah had been married for 16 years according to what is written on the census form for that year, and the form is signed in the name of Hyman M. Lapatnick. So from this it seems that "Markel" was Hyman Markel Lapatnick who married Sarah Lapatnick, perhaps a cousin. Anyway here is a screenprint of Minnie's birth entry.

Edited January 21, 2021 by hillsbro

[Diane Major 0]

Was there another Sarah After This Sarah passed? I was  told the second Sara was the wife who came to America and the first Sarah died in England at a young age?