mossdog   10 #445 Posted February 5, 2009 Margarat thatcher great ,she brought this country to its knees lolNow who's been telling you fairy stories..! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
mossdog   10 #446 Posted February 5, 2009 (edited) Gordon Bennett, do you feel bullet-proof today? I intend to take that as a serious threat! in the context of this discussion! Edited February 5, 2009 by mossdog Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
libuse   10 #447 Posted February 5, 2009 Nothing about Tony Blair then.......?  huh? So having an understanding of how Thatcher raped the country makes me Blairite? Seriously, I'm not sure you're well......Assuming that you think I should have made comment about all elected leaders who haven't done ever so well for Britain, well, we were actually discussing Carol Thatcher, and thats why I mentioned her mother. As soon as Euan Blair calls a black man a golliwog, trust me, I'll be on it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
patthetrip   10 #448 Posted February 6, 2009 ..her mother was the last true leader this country has had! not that a lot of the Sheffield left who post on this Forum will understand that!  Tramp the dirt down Mossdog - a fair few people in southern germany feel silimarly dowy eyed about that short arsed Austrian house painter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Treatment   10 #449 Posted February 6, 2009 Margarat thatcher great ,she brought this country to its knees lol  Apparently the girl on the One Show brought Adrian Chiles to his knees. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Urien   10 #450 Posted February 6, 2009 I wonder if the PC fascists ever got around to banning that old racist song, Good Golly Miss Molly, by Little Richard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
BasilRathbon   10 #451 Posted February 6, 2009 I wonder if the PC fascists ever got around to banning that old racist song, Good Golly Miss Molly, by Little Richard  Careful! The BBC insist on referring to him as Person Of Restricted Growth Richard to avoid offending dwarves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Pritt Stick   10 #452 Posted February 6, 2009 There are a lot of people who are protected by discrimination rules who abuse that by constantly making remarks and using language in the company of others, which those other people can't/shouldn't use. The N and P words being particular racial favourites. If things are to be fair everyone should abide by the same rules, being offended being a pretty subjective thing anyway.  Eyup Darbees.  Have you never considered the fact that those black and asian people that throw the words ****** and **** about might just be ****ing idiots and in no way representative of their communities as a whole. For God's sake - get a grip. My black friends don't use the word '******' to describe each other (not when I'm around anyway), and as an ethnic Indian, NOBODY, in my family or social circle, in my 43 years on the planet, has ever used the word '****' either.  There's a few million of us in this country - we're not all the same.  Don't take your cues about those words from the people you've met. If YOU think they are wrong, don't use 'em. If YOU think the words are ok then knock yourself out and have a reyt old '****' fest. Shout it from the rooftops. There will be consequences, mind you.  As for fairness....life isn't fair.....just is what it is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Pritt Stick   10 #453 Posted February 6, 2009 So now I have a very practised response of, "I am born in X. Yet, my parents were born in Y. I am of x generation of B. I have lived in C, before I moved here."  Similarly to you, when asked I say 'I'm Indian by ethnicity, British by nationality' unless I'm feeling contrary. On those occasions I say 'I'm Swedish' and you can see the cogs goind round. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Darbees   10 #454 Posted February 6, 2009 Eyup Darbees. Have you never considered the fact that those black and asian people that throw the words ****** and **** about might just be ****ing idiots and in no way representative of their communities as a whole. For God's sake - get a grip. My black friends don't use the word '******' to describe each other (not when I'm around anyway), and as an ethnic Indian, NOBODY, in my family or social circle, in my 43 years on the planet, has ever used the word '****' either. They may well be but the fact is, I hear it quite a lot. I work in Bradford and the P word is common parlance in all communities and is usually used as a word of reference and not abuse. It's the context that is important when being offensive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Pritt Stick   10 #455 Posted February 6, 2009 They may well be but the fact is, I hear it quite a lot. I work in Bradford and the P word is common parlance in all communities and is usually used as a word of reference and not abuse. It's the context that is important when being offensive.  Well, I've never know **** to be common parlance but I've only ever been to Bradford once and have no knowledge at all of the cultural norms of the Pakistani communities in that city, so thank you for sharing that.  I don't like the fact that it's becoming a word of reference - it only has negative connotations for me. If someone uses **** shop as shorthand for corner shop my shoulders drop automatically. The history of the word and the way it's been used against me means I have to much baggage with it to consider it anything but insulting.  And I agree with you about context. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
boyfriday   21 #456 Posted February 6, 2009 They may well be but the fact is, I hear it quite a lot. I work in Bradford and the P word is common parlance in all communities and is usually used as a word of reference and not abuse. It's the context that is important when being offensive.  Darbees, don't you think that the fact Pritt Stick is not familiar with these words within members of his community and myself likewise, suggest something?  You may well hear Asians or blacks addressing each other this way, obviously thats is your experience, I've only heard it rarely.  I occassionally hear white people addressing each other in 'over familiar' ways, however that wouldnt be a universal form of greeting would it?  You don't talk to strangers the same way you would speak to a family member or a close friend.  If I heard you jovially address one of your mates as a 'daft white bas***', I wouldnt come to the conclusion that it would be ok for me to do the same...fortunately, we're all blessed with a bit more common sense than that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...